# All flows gone after fresh install

**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/all-flows-gone-after-fresh-install/82476
**Category:** General
**Created:** [30 October 2023 18:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/all-flows-gone-after-fresh-install/82476 "2023-10-30T18:22:22Z")
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### Author: ![jodelkoenig](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/jodelkoenig/32/44645_2.png) [@jodelkoenig](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jodelkoenig)
#### Post date: [31 October 2023 18:14 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/all-flows-gone-after-fresh-install/82476/27 "2023-10-31T18:14:17Z")

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Hey @9toejack

I know it is overwhelming to try to securely publish a web service to the internet. And being hacked adds a completely different set of stress level to it. And I fully understand your requirement for remote access.

**However ...**

**my simple advise to anybody is: if you don't know, what you are doing, then ... _do not publish any service to the internet_.**

This doesn't help you at all now, I know, but the price you'd pay for any consequences might be way bigger than some deleted flows. And there are no links that provide you with a step-by-step guide out there, that you can trust. I f.e. cannot judge whether they are trustworthy, up-2-date or of necessary quality.

I'd better spend some time to find a solution that is manageable for rookies like us. This seems way safer 🙂

Cloudflare has been mentioned. FlowForge as well.

**I love Zerotier for its simplicity.** [see here](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/accessing-node-red-dashboard-over-the-internet/37392/4)

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