# Any suggestion for web apps visual programming tools

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**Created:** [20 July 2021 03:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/any-suggestion-for-web-apps-visual-programming-tools/48611 "2021-07-20T03:48:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![anguslou](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/anguslou/32/9212_2.png) [@anguslou](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/anguslou)\
**Post date:** [20 July 2021 03:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/any-suggestion-for-web-apps-visual-programming-tools/48611/1 "2021-07-20T03:48:32Z")

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I have been using Node-Red for quite a while, and looking for a visual programming tool to develop webapps that hopefully work seamlessly with Node-Red.

I have been looking at [bubble.io](http://bubble.io) and UI bakery, any suggestion?

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [20 July 2021 22:07 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/any-suggestion-for-web-apps-visual-programming-tools/48611/2 "2021-07-20T22:07:53Z")

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Isn't Dashboard enough for you? What are you really looking for in such a tool?

You should be able to interface any front-end framework with uibuilder though it might not always be easy to get started since you will have to interpret what the framework says in a way that allows you to work with uibuilder and Node-RED. I think there may be some specific VueJS UI builders that may be a little easier to work with. Though typically all such builders require that you run a build step - this can certainly be used in conjunction with uibuilder but the learning curve can be rather steep.

You can also use Node-RED as an API server which may work better with some of those more complex tools like [bubble.io](http://bubble.io).

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [18 September 2021 22:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/any-suggestion-for-web-apps-visual-programming-tools/48611/3 "2021-09-18T22:08:36Z")

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