# Backup of flows - no access to webinterface after installing a node
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941
**Category:** General
**Created:** [14 November 2019 10:42 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941 "2019-11-14T10:42:41Z")
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### Author:  [@maku12](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/maku12)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 10:42 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/1 "2019-11-14T10:42:41Z")
Hi, unfortunately i have no access to node red webinterface after installing the node: node red speaker pi
this is the error message:
is there also a possibilty to backup the flows, or where is the file location of the flows?
Many Thanks
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### Author:  [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 11:07 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/2 "2019-11-14T11:07:17Z")
Have you tried starting in safe mode `node-red --safe`?
You could also remove that node via the CLI - change to the `.node-red` directory (`cd .node-red`) and use `npm remove node-red-contrib-speakerpi` and then see if you can start up again.
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### Author:  [@maku12](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/maku12)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 11:34 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/3 "2019-11-14T11:34:45Z")
`node-red --safe` doesn't help, when I run the remove command following appears
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### Author:  [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 11:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/4 "2019-11-14T11:54:04Z")
after the remove, can you start node red?
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### Author:  [@maku12](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/maku12)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 11:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/5 "2019-11-14T11:54:41Z")
no unfortunately not, the same error
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### Author:  [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 11:58 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/6 "2019-11-14T11:58:03Z")
Well you can remove the node in terminal by
`cd .node-red' 'cd node_modules`
then delete the folder for that node
`rm -rf node-red-contrib-speakerpi`
and then start node-red again.
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### Author:  [@maku12](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/maku12)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/7 "2019-11-14T12:03:48Z")
i have deleted it but when i start node.red the same error appears
is it possible to find the existing flows via cli?
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### Author:  [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:05 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/8 "2019-11-14T12:05:51Z")
Your flows are in the `~/.node-red` directory.
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### Author:  [@maku12](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/maku12)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/9 "2019-11-14T12:08:30Z")
where exactly?, this is the ls output
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### Author:  [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:15 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/10 "2019-11-14T12:15:40Z")
Why are you those folders. Start again with
`cd $HOME`
which should get you back to the Pi directory. Then
`cd .node-red`
then
`npm remove node-red-contrib-speakerpi`
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### Author:  [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:21 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/11 "2019-11-14T12:21:20Z")
You have shared the ls output of a completely different directory to the one I pointed you at.
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### Author:  [@maku12](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/maku12)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/12 "2019-11-14T12:33:02Z")
ok sorry,
i found the right directory:
but there is another error:
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### Author:  [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/13 "2019-11-14T12:48:17Z")
it's not `node red start` it is `node-red-start`
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### Author:  [@maku12](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/maku12)
#### Post date: [14 November 2019 12:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/backup-of-flows-no-access-to-webinterface-after-installing-a-node/17941/14 "2019-11-14T12:54:04Z")
> [@zenofmud](#):
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> node-red --safe
yes also with `node-red-start` i got the error.
in the meantime i found the flows. I think I will start from scratch and flash a new raspbian.
Many Thanks for all your help.