# Can't move objects and adding spacer nodes out of nowhere

**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/cant-move-objects-and-adding-spacer-nodes-out-of-nowhere/73920
**Category:** Dashboard
**Created:** [19 January 2023 14:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/cant-move-objects-and-adding-spacer-nodes-out-of-nowhere/73920 "2023-01-19T14:53:49Z")
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### Author: ![deividzandeli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@deividzandeli](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/deividzandeli)
#### Post date: [19 January 2023 14:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/cant-move-objects-and-adding-spacer-nodes-out-of-nowhere/73920/1 "2023-01-19T14:53:49Z")

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Hi guys, unfortunally I have the same problem posted here: [https://discourse.nodered.org/t/cant-move-objects-in-layout-editor/](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/cant-move-objects-in-layout-editor/)

Aside that, spacer nodes are added all the time (which is painfully to delete since no shortcut to do that quick nor group selection).

I'm using chrome and node-RED v1.0.6. Can't really change the NR version, it might cause a lot of troubles in a current functioning application in shop floor 😕

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### Author: ![zenofmud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/zenofmud/32/316_2.png) [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)
#### Post date: [19 January 2023 16:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/cant-move-objects-and-adding-spacer-nodes-out-of-nowhere/73920/2 "2023-01-19T16:50:35Z")

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What device are you running NR on? If you can't change the existing NR version, I would get a new device and copy the flow over to it and get it working. Then you could swap devices to keep downtime to a minimum.

You do have a backup device already...right???

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [18 February 2023 16:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/cant-move-objects-and-adding-spacer-nodes-out-of-nowhere/73920/3 "2023-02-18T16:50:44Z")

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