# Commercial use of node red questions

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096>\
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**Created:** [3 May 2021 08:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096 "2021-05-03T08:44:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![corso66](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/corso66/32/41143_2.png) [@corso66](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/corso66)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2021 08:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/1 "2021-05-03T08:44:30Z")

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Hi everybody,

I have just some questions about nodered and commercial use, i explain me ;

At the begin, i'm a electronician, and i'm actualy in a professionnal conversion. i created a regulation to manage a inovant system in house to heating and cooling solutions, around water...

This regulation is ready now to pruduce, and running alone but, I have disigned a app with Nodered (with your help sometime 😅), to have a real IoT with all user want to know like, energy saving, money gain, modification of parameters, etc ...  
At the start, node red was just a good idea to try and test communication with my electronic card, but now, the result is for me very cool and nice !!

Normaly, when a customer buy a system connected like for exemple, automatic watering, he get the app freely. I would want that. Is it possible ?

If yes, in a cloud or server environment with nodered, how can (or external firm to do this) manage user account with crédentials ?

For now, transmissions between nodered and my iot is not encrypted, is nodered can manage ssl communications ? What a IoT transmit to the server about identification user ?

Thank you for you help, and have a good day 😉

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**Author:** ![torrent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@torrent](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/torrent)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2021 10:20 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/2 "2021-05-03T10:20:27Z")

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For the encryption, you can use MQTT with TLS/SSL and I recently found this free MQTT Broker

> **[emqx/emqx](https://github.com/emqx/emqx)**
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> EMQ X Broker - Scalable Distributed MQTT Message Broker for IoT in the 5G Era

> **[Enable two-way SSL/TLS for EMQ X](https://www.emqx.io/blog/enable-two-way-ssl-for-emqx)**
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> This article will introduce how to enable SSL/TLS two-way security connection for MQTT in EMQ X.

It has a dashboard to manage MQTT connection and many plugins for configuration as well as well-done documents.

For question, if NodeRED can use for commerical purpose, I think for small project is that not a big deal, but for a huge project, I am not sure if NodeRED can work with a lot of connections/ clients.

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**Author:** ![corso66](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/corso66/32/41143_2.png) [@corso66](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/corso66)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2021 12:16 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/3 "2021-05-03T12:16:23Z")

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Thank you for your aswer.

For now, i'm communicating with TCP socket, iot client, not secured. What is advantage between TCP and mqtt with SSL or not ?

I'm waiting to receive un new UART/Net module for my card, that support mqtt + SSL firmware.

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2021 14:20 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/4 "2021-05-03T14:20:05Z")

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HI, please don't take this the wrong way, however, if you are producing a commercial tool based on a cloud connection, you **NEED** to get professional cyber security advice.

Failing to do so WILL likely result in your system being compromised, potentially resulting in loss of customer data. Either way, this will be a bad outcome for you and probably for your customers as well.

Depending on your locality, you may also well find yourself subject to civil and/or criminal damages.

At the very least, there are far too many compromised systems around that are giving bad actors platforms from which to freely attack others.

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**Author:** ![corso66](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/corso66/32/41143_2.png) [@corso66](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/corso66)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2021 16:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/5 "2021-05-03T16:09:42Z")

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Yes, i understand that. I know that a lot of cyber criminal love more and more hacking IoT. This is a big problem now in the world ...

But if all safety data issues are fixed, is node red can do what i want ?

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2021 16:49 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/6 "2021-05-03T16:49:25Z")

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Don't see why not.

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**Author:** ![corso66](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/corso66/32/41143_2.png) [@corso66](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/corso66)\
**Post date:** [4 May 2021 08:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/7 "2021-05-04T08:37:48Z")

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Ok thank you, i will see all that.

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**Author:** ![janvda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/janvda/32/234_2.png) [@janvda](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/janvda)\
**Post date:** [4 May 2021 14:15 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/8 "2021-05-04T14:15:59Z")

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> [@corso66](#):
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> I have just some questions about nodered and commercial use

node-red is open source using the [Apache License 2.0](https://github.com/node-red/node-red/blob/master/LICENSE) so you can use it commercially.

The license is a permissive license whose main conditions require preservation of copyright and license notices.

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**Author:** ![corso66](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/corso66/32/41143_2.png) [@corso66](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/corso66)\
**Post date:** [4 May 2021 16:56 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/9 "2021-05-04T16:56:37Z")

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Ok very nice, thank you very much

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [18 May 2021 16:57 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/commercial-use-of-node-red-questions/45096/10 "2021-05-18T16:57:10Z")

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