# ctrl-shift-V behaving like ctrl-V
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227
**Category:** General
**Created:** [1 October 2025 04:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227 "2025-10-01T04:40:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 04:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/1 "2025-10-01T04:40:30Z")
For ages I've been using ctrl-shift-C to copy a group style and ctrl-shift-V to paste it to another group. But recently ctrl-shift-V is doing the same as ctrl-V. Can somebody confirm if this is the case for them too? I'm on NR 4.0.9.
Suspiciously I've also got autohotkey running, but it's not tinkering with those keys, and I've had it running for ages too.
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### Author:  [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 06:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/2 "2025-10-01T06:44:48Z")
Can you explain what a group style is please
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### Author:  [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 06:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/3 "2025-10-01T06:53:50Z")
Group style is the colour, background etc. There is a builtin action to copy the style properties of a group and “paste” them into another group. Not aware of any changes to the keyboard handling that would have changed things in this area.
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 07:16 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/4 "2025-10-01T07:16:03Z")
And just to confirm, I am selecting the new group first, and the keyboard settings do reflect ctrl-shift-v:
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 07:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/5 "2025-10-01T07:30:09Z")
Hi.
Firstly, this works fine for me in Node-RED 4.1.0 on Windows + Chrome.
1. What OS and what browser are you using?
2. Have you tried another browser? or another computer/different OS?
3. Do you get the popup stating style was copied when you press CTRL-SHIFT-C?
4. If you map the shortcuts to something else like ALT-SHIFT- does it work?
5. If you map the shortcuts back to CTRL-SHIFT- does they start working?
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 07:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/6 "2025-10-01T07:33:14Z")
Yeah I just span up a 3.1.10 version and that's doing the same thing, so it must be something at my end. I'll try a different PC.
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 07:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/7 "2025-10-01T07:37:38Z")
I used Chrome Remote Desktop from the laptop to another PC using the logic that if it was the laptop it would continue doing it with remote desktop, but it didn't. It worked there. Time for a reboot perhaps.
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 07:49 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/8 "2025-10-01T07:49:10Z")
Given it's clearly only me on this laptop this can be ignored. I must have some other software doing something (time for a virus scan). But to answer the questions...
- What OS and what browser are you using?
**Windows 10, Chrome**
- Have you tried another browser? or another computer/different OS?
**Yes - it works**
- Do you get the popup stating style was copied when you press CTRL-SHIFT-C?
**Yes**
- If you map the shortcuts to something else like ALT-SHIFT- does it work?
**Yes**
- If you map the shortcuts back to CTRL-SHIFT- does they start working?
**No**
I'd be happier if all the ctrl-shift keys didn't work - weird that it's just this one. It stopped working a couple of weeks ago, so I don't really remember what was going on then.
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 08:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/9 "2025-10-01T08:09:07Z")
I have a feeling something system wide has hijacked this on your laptop
Perhaps related: [Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/1csae7x/ctrl_shift_v_is_here/) ?
Try running chrome without extensions: [Bypass all extensions on Google Chrome by changing properties on Chrome shortcut - Chrome Enterprise & Education Community](https://support.google.com/chrome/a/thread/233680329/bypass-all-extensions-on-google-chrome-by-changing-properties-on-chrome-shortcut?hl=en)
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [1 October 2025 11:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/10 "2025-10-01T11:02:13Z")
It has the same issue in Firefox and incognito in Chrome. And interestingly with your 'related' link, I tried it in Word and it works as it shuold there - red text copied then produces red text with ctrl-V, and black (ie. default) text with ctrl-shift-V.
So it's not totally dependent on NR because it works from another machine, and it's not totally dependent on my laptop because it works in another app. I give up. It's the universe telling me to upgrade my laptop because it's 4 years old.
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### Author:  [@bakman2](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/bakman2)
#### Post date: [2 October 2025 05:23 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/11 "2025-10-02T05:23:43Z")
> [@michaelblight](#):
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> Remote Desktop
Isn't this the culprit ? often remote desktop software have their own shortcuts, especially when it comes to copy/paste.
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [2 October 2025 06:01 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/12 "2025-10-02T06:01:48Z")
> [@bakman2](#):
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> Isn't this the culprit ?
No - normally I'm not using Remote Desktop, I was just trying it to see if it was related to only my laptop. When using Remote Desktop from my laptop I do not see the issue, whereas with my laptop directly I do. Last night I updated from Win10 to 11 (keeping apps), and it's still not working.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [31 December 2025 06:01 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ctrl-shift-v-behaving-like-ctrl-v/99227/13 "2025-12-31T06:01:52Z")
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