# Dashboard Groups, can one control their collapsed state

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690>\
**Category:** Dashboard\
**Created:** [3 October 2020 09:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690 "2020-10-03T09:30:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 09:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/1 "2020-10-03T09:30:59Z")

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Can one set groups to initially be displayed collapsed and/or directly be controlled ?

/Boja

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 09:58 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/2 "2020-10-03T09:58:38Z")

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The initial state is always expanded - but you can use the ui\_control node to both detect when a new browser connects and then immediately send them a hide command.

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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 10:05 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/3 "2020-10-03T10:05:38Z")

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Really interesting. Do you have any examples on how this is done ?

/Boja

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 12:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/4 "2020-10-03T12:54:04Z")

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Give it a go. The info panel should help.

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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 14:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/5 "2020-10-03T14:44:53Z")

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I know, but I couldn't get it to work and I just can't figure out how to solve the problem.

Messages like {"group": {"hide": [ and {"group": {"show": [ works fine but apparently "close" and "open" can't be used in the same manor. Help in the info panel do not go into detail about this, and one could expect {"group": {"close": [ was the answer to the problem, but it's not.

I'm new to using the ui-control node and have not found any other information about this topic.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 15:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/6 "2020-10-03T15:04:05Z")

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Post a screenshot of a debug node showing the message you are sending that doesn't work.

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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 15:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/7 "2020-10-03T15:22:28Z")

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show/hide works fine, open/close does not.

The iu-group settings are:  
 ![billede](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/c/6/c6f1ae528bbbe9f8ba4b5530c58269e9beecf0e3.png)

 ![billede](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/6/4/64e96daa7037f6d8bb8d89d0c8eb487d7f7594ca.png)

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**Author:** ![stefan24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/stefan24/32/23075_2.png) [@stefan24](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/stefan24)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 18:13 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/8 "2020-10-03T18:13:13Z")

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This works for me:

`{"group":{"open":["BSB_Test"],"show":["BSB_External"],"hide":["BSB_xx","BSB_System"]}}`

I had another ui\_control command with a close in the same structure, which also worked.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 20:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/9 "2020-10-03T20:10:08Z")

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@Boja if it still isn't working, what versions of node-red, node-red-dashboard, the led node and nodejs are you using?  
In fact if you post the startup log from node-red that will tell us all that except the led node. It may provide other useful information too.

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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 20:13 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/10 "2020-10-03T20:13:17Z")

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Very strange. I'l have to dig into this problem to really figure out what exactly is happening in my flow. But at least I now know that's it's not the msg sent that's wrong.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 20:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/11 "2020-10-03T20:48:39Z")

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Something is terrible wrong here. No matter what I do, the group will not close/open. I send open and close commands but nothing is happening.

But if I manually close and open the group just once, everything start working. Wt.

I think I'm on to figure out what's happening though.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 21:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/12 "2020-10-03T21:02:41Z")

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Did you see my post asking for the startup log? That may give us a clue.

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**Author:** ![stefan24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/stefan24/32/23075_2.png) [@stefan24](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/stefan24)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 21:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/13 "2020-10-03T21:19:55Z")

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@Colin, regarding your "led node" question you must have mixed that with another recent thread, where somebody had indeed problems with the led node.

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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [3 October 2020 21:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/14 "2020-10-03T21:53:26Z")

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Yes I saw your post. The log unfortunately showed nothing interesting:

3 Oct 21:11:07 - [info] Stopping flows  
3 Oct 21:11:07 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Closing connection to [http://supervisor/core](http://supervisor/core)  
3 Oct 21:11:07 - [info] Stopped flows  
3 Oct 21:11:07 - [info] Starting flows  
3 Oct 21:11:08 - [info] Started flows  
[03/Oct/2020:21:11:08 +0000] 200 192.168.10.150, 172.30.32.1(172.30.32.2) POST /flows HTTP/1.1 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0)  
3 Oct 21:11:12 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to [http://supervisor/core](http://supervisor/core)  
3 Oct 21:11:13 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connected to [http://supervisor/core](http://supervisor/core)  
[03/Oct/2020:21:11:15 +0000] 200 192.168.10.150, 172.30.32.1(172.30.32.2) POST /inject/9adc514d.3ec57 HTTP/1.1 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0)  
[03/Oct/2020:21:11:22 +0000] 200 192.168.10.150, 172.30.32.1(172.30.32.2) POST /inject/9adc514d.3ec57 HTTP/1.1 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0)

**But I found out what the problem was.**

I'm not quite there yet, but I'm certain that a group naming error I corrected early this morning is the culprit. The group name had a time specification included, 10:11:10 which is not allowed. Why the error have persisted all day, through a number of group renaming sessions and through countless full deployments is beyond me. A single manual close/open of the group, apparently cleaned it all up.

But anyways, everything now work as expected. But what a struggle.

Thanks to all.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [4 October 2020 07:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/15 "2020-10-04T07:25:48Z")

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Oops, yes, I was getting the threads mixed up. Sorry for the noise.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [4 October 2020 07:27 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/16 "2020-10-04T07:27:34Z")

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Perhaps it was a browser caching issue. That can give some very odd results that can magically disappear.

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**Author:** ![Boja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Boja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Boja)\
**Post date:** [4 October 2020 09:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/17 "2020-10-04T09:17:50Z")

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God point. Yesterday I tried to trace back through what I had done, to figure out exactly what triggered the event, but sadly enough the exact same issue did not really materialize again.

But what the heck, it now works.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [3 November 2020 09:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/dashboard-groups-can-one-control-their-collapsed-state/33690/18 "2020-11-03T09:17:57Z")

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