# Email node will stop working with Gmail. Is there an alternative?

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [14 March 2022 17:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854 "2022-03-14T17:39:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![paulohlp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@paulohlp](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/paulohlp)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2022 17:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/1 "2022-03-14T17:39:08Z")

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Hi.  
Google will no longer allow Gmail access using smtp or through less secure apps.  
I searched but did not find a alternative. **Any suggestions?**

Thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2022 17:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/2 "2022-03-14T17:51:41Z")

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The node readme suggests using an 'app password' as described [Sign in with App Passwords - Gmail Help](https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwhy-you-may-need-an-app-password)

Are you saying that this does not work??

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**Author:** ![paulohlp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@paulohlp](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/paulohlp)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2022 18:45 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/3 "2022-03-14T18:45:54Z")

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It seems this option will stop working also.

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2022 18:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/4 "2022-03-14T18:50:10Z")

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> [@paulohlp](#):
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> this option will stop working

Can you provide a link to where you found that information?

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**Author:** ![paulohlp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@paulohlp](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/paulohlp)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2022 19:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/6 "2022-03-14T19:03:22Z")

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English is not my first language, I may misunderstood.

> **[Less secure apps & your Google Account - Google Account Help](https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?rfn=1646361360139&anexp=nret-fa&pli=1)**
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> To help keep your account secure, starting May 30, 2022, ​​Google will no longer support the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your Google Account using only y

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2022 19:26 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/7 "2022-03-14T19:26:36Z")

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The last section of that link mentions 'app passwords' so I assume that they will still continue to work.

 ![Screenshot_20220314-192233](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/7/9/79f5eadc7c526a9a2f2989f6a8e78247754b6790.png)

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**Author:** ![PiMo131](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/pimo131/32/34978_2.png) [@PiMo131](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/PiMo131)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2022 20:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/8 "2022-03-14T20:39:55Z")

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You can try this option. It uses powershell so, you would need to be running on a windows machine:

[https://flows.nodered.org/flow/6eef931189ce2697f7747dc976774367](https://flows.nodered.org/flow/6eef931189ce2697f7747dc976774367)

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**Author:** ![wb666greene](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/wb666greene/32/6534_2.png) [@wb666greene](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/wb666greene)\
**Post date:** [17 March 2022 04:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/9 "2022-03-17T04:25:04Z")

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An App Password is a 16-digit passcode that gives a less secure app or device permission to access your Google Account. App Passwords can only be used with accounts that have [2-Step Verification](https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185839) turned on.

Can you explain how an unattended IOT device is supposed to use 2-Step Verification (also known as two-factor authentication)? My Beaglebone and Raspberry Pi do not have access to my phone!

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [17 March 2022 08:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/10 "2022-03-17T08:44:06Z")

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In order to set up app passwords you must enable 2 factor verification.  
But using an app password bypasses the 2FA.

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**Author:** ![Radford](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Radford](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Radford)\
**Post date:** [19 March 2022 23:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/11 "2022-03-19T23:03:06Z")

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I am currently using node-red 2.2.1. I have tried changing the password to under 8 characters long. Changed gmail to outlook, setup 2 step verifcation etc etc. I am still getting the following error -  
Error: Invalid login: 535-5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at↵535 5.7.8 [Check Gmail through other email platforms - Gmail Help](https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials) z3-20020a1cf403000000b0037d1f4a2201sm9865

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [20 March 2022 00:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/12 "2022-03-20T00:08:13Z")

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Are you trying to send email from Node-red or to receive email?

What made you think that changing your password to less than 8 characters might help - are you following a how-to that might be out of date?

I can't understand "Changed gmail to outlook". It doesn't seem likely that settings to use a gmail account would work for a Microsoft email account.

Have you generated an app password for your gmail account? Does it not work?

How do you have the email node set up?

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**Author:** ![Henjoe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/henjoe/32/52335_2.png) [@Henjoe](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Henjoe)\
**Post date:** [20 March 2022 07:23 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/13 "2022-03-20T07:23:56Z")

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I already tried the App Password using the node-red-email node and it works fine.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [3 April 2022 07:24 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/email-node-will-stop-working-with-gmail-is-there-an-alternative/59854/14 "2022-04-03T07:24:35Z")

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