# Flowforge Issue

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662>\
**Category:** General\
**Tags:** flowforge\
**Created:** [24 May 2023 16:15 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662 "2023-05-24T16:15:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 16:15 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/1 "2023-05-24T16:15:25Z")

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Hi there,

Just got Flowforge up and running, but the Node-Red containers don't seem to start up and connect to Flowforge

```auto
2023-05-24 18:09:15 Launcher Started
2023-05-24 18:09:15 Loading project settings
2023-05-24 18:09:16 Target state is 'running'
2023-05-24 18:09:16 Starting Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:09:54 Node-RED hang detected.
2023-05-24 18:09:54 Stopping Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:09:55 Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023-05-24 18:09:56 Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 40s
2023-05-24 18:09:56 Starting Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:10:35 Node-RED hang detected.
2023-05-24 18:10:35 Stopping Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:10:35 Node-RED exited rc=null signal=SIGTERM
2023-05-24 18:10:36 Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 39s
2023-05-24 18:10:36 Starting Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:11:14 Node-RED hang detected.
2023-05-24 18:11:14 Stopping Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:11:15 Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023-05-24 18:11:15 Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 40s
2023-05-24 18:11:15 Starting Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:11:53 Node-RED hang detected.
2023-05-24 18:11:53 Stopping Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:11:54 Node-RED exited rc=null signal=SIGTERM
2023-05-24 18:11:54 Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 39s
2023-05-24 18:11:54 Starting Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:12:32 Node-RED hang detected.
2023-05-24 18:12:32 Stopping Node-RED
2023-05-24 18:12:34 Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023-05-24 18:12:35 Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 41s
2023-05-24 18:12:35 Node-RED restart loop detected. Restarting in safe mode.
2023-05-24 18:12:35 Starting Node-RED

```

Is there something needed to get these images connected?

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 16:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/2 "2023-05-24T16:39:07Z")

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Hi @grant.cpt

How have you installed FlowForge? Is it the Docker or k8s version?

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**Author:** ![hardillb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hardillb/32/12373_2.png) [@hardillb](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hardillb)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 16:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/3 "2023-05-24T16:41:51Z")

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Also what hardware are you running on

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**Author:** ![krambriw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/krambriw/32/5429_2.png) [@krambriw](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/krambriw)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 16:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/4 "2023-05-24T16:41:54Z")

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Just wondering if Flowforge topics will be addressed here in the Node-RED forum or if you plan to setup a separate? I understand they are related but what would be best?

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 16:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/5 "2023-05-24T16:43:42Z")

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@krambriw we will be setting up our own support forum in the near future.

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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 16:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/6 "2023-05-24T16:51:15Z")

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> [@knolleary](#):
>
> Is it the Docker or k8s version?

Docker Desktop (Just testing for now)

> [@hardillb](#):
>
> Also what hardware are you running on

Mac M1

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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 16:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/7 "2023-05-24T16:54:28Z")

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Web Portal says to check the logs, but they aren't of real help

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/c/e/cea64e6a03139f4802c6a319fe55c980e6f0bdb7.png)

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 17:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/8 "2023-05-24T17:04:35Z")

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Thanks @grant.cpt

We introduced hang detection in FF 1.7 that ensures Node-RED isn't left in a hung state. With the current timings, it should be giving Node-RED about 35 seconds to start up and start responding to HTTP pings. The logs you share do show about that time interval between it logging 'Starting Node-RED' and 'hang detected'. The question then is what is Node-RED doing.

Can you check the logs tab in the FF application - we should see some activity there showing Node-RED starting up - the container log only shows the wrapper app's logs.

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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 17:14 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/9 "2023-05-24T17:14:16Z")

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So rebooted the stack, there was an ECONNREFUSED for a port 5432

Below is the log output from FF application

```auto
2023-05-24 19:08:44 [2023-05-24T17:08:44.179Z] INFO: FlowForge v1.7.1
2023-05-24 19:08:44 [2023-05-24T17:08:44.179Z] INFO: FlowForge running with NodeJS v16.20.0
2023-05-24 19:08:44 [2023-05-24T17:08:44.179Z] INFO: FlowForge Data Directory: /usr/src/forge
2023-05-24 19:08:44 [2023-05-24T17:08:44.179Z] INFO: Config File: /usr/src/forge/etc/flowforge.yml
2023-05-24 19:08:44 [2023-05-24T17:08:44.199Z] INFO: Database driver: postgres
2023-05-24 19:08:44 [2023-05-24T17:08:44.253Z] ERROR: Failed to start: SequelizeConnectionRefusedError: connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.16.3:5432
2023-05-24 19:08:45 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.591Z] INFO: FlowForge v1.7.1
2023-05-24 19:08:45 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.591Z] INFO: FlowForge running with NodeJS v16.20.0
2023-05-24 19:08:45 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.592Z] INFO: FlowForge Data Directory: /usr/src/forge
2023-05-24 19:08:45 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.592Z] INFO: Config File: /usr/src/forge/etc/flowforge.yml
2023-05-24 19:08:45 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.606Z] INFO: Database driver: postgres
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.977Z] INFO: No license applied
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.993Z] INFO: Usage : count/limit
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.993Z] INFO: Users : 1/150
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.993Z] INFO: Teams : 1/50
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.993Z] INFO: Projects : 1/50
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:45.993Z] INFO: Devices : 0/50
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.253Z] INFO: Email not configured
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.322Z] INFO: Container driver: docker
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.410Z] INFO: Server listening at http://0.0.0.0:3000
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.411Z] INFO: ****************************************************
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.411Z] INFO: * FlowForge is now running and can be accessed at: *
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.411Z] INFO: * http://forge.example.com *
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.411Z] INFO: ****************************************************
2023-05-24 19:08:46 [2023-05-24T17:08:46.484Z] INFO: Connected to comms broker
2023-05-24 19:09:31 [2023-05-24T17:09:31.101Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: stopped, type: project, id: 6df5518f-2c60-491c-8351-4c705b8d64d8
2023-05-24 19:09:45 [2023-05-24T17:09:44.984Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: crashed, type: project, id: 6df5518f-2c60-491c-8351-4c705b8d64d8
2023-05-24 19:09:45 [2023-05-24T17:09:45.498Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: project.deleted, type: team, id: 1
2023-05-24 19:09:45 [2023-05-24T17:09:45.506Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: project.deleted, type: project, id: 6df5518f-2c60-491c-8351-4c705b8d64d8
2023-05-24 19:10:00 [2023-05-24T17:09:59.209Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: project.created, type: project, id: 1ace15a3-5638-44d3-9c43-e816aa9b9097
2023-05-24 19:10:00 [2023-05-24T17:09:59.211Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: project.created, type: team, id: 1
2023-05-24 19:10:55 [2023-05-24T17:10:54.896Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: stopped, type: project, id: 1ace15a3-5638-44d3-9c43-e816aa9b9097
2023-05-24 19:11:46 [2023-05-24T17:11:45.584Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: crashed, type: project, id: 1ace15a3-5638-44d3-9c43-e816aa9b9097
2023-05-24 19:12:24 [2023-05-24T17:12:24.394Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: stopped, type: project, id: 1ace15a3-5638-44d3-9c43-e816aa9b9097
2023-05-24 19:13:05 [2023-05-24T17:13:04.237Z] INFO: AUDIT: event: stopped, type: project, id: 1ace15a3-5638-44d3-9c43-e816aa9b9097

```

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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 17:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/10 "2023-05-24T17:19:08Z")

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KK so port 5432 is Postgres. Rebooted that container and then rebooted FF application. It's not complaining about connection refused.

However, Node-Red still isn't starting up

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 17:26 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/11 "2023-05-24T17:26:47Z")

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The logs we need to see are the Node-RED logs, not the FF logs.

From within the FlowForge application, you should see a Node-RED Logs tab on the left when looking at the instance page.

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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 17:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/12 "2023-05-24T17:33:15Z")

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Oh my bad 🙈

Here are the requested logs. Very interesting behaviour...

```auto
2023/05/24 19:28:24
[system]
Launcher Started
2023/05/24 19:28:24
[system]
Loading project settings
2023/05/24 19:28:25
[system]
Target state is 'running'
2023/05/24 19:28:25
[system]
Starting Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:28:54
[info]
Welcome to Node-RED
===================
2023/05/24 19:28:54
[info]
Node-RED version: v3.0.2
2023/05/24 19:28:54
[info]
Node.js version: v16.16.0
2023/05/24 19:28:54
[info]
Linux 5.15.49-linuxkit arm64 LE
2023/05/24 19:29:03
[system]
Node-RED hang detected.
2023/05/24 19:29:03
[system]
Stopping Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:29:05
[system]
Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023/05/24 19:29:06
[system]
Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 40s
2023/05/24 19:29:06
[system]
Starting Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:29:44
[system]
Node-RED hang detected.
2023/05/24 19:29:44
[system]
Stopping Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:29:44
[system]
Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023/05/24 19:29:44
[system]
Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 38s
2023/05/24 19:29:44
[system]
Starting Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:29:57
[info]
Welcome to Node-RED
===================
2023/05/24 19:29:57
[info]
Node-RED version: v3.0.2
2023/05/24 19:29:57
[info]
Node.js version: v16.16.0
2023/05/24 19:29:57
[info]
Linux 5.15.49-linuxkit arm64 LE
2023/05/24 19:30:08
[info]
Loading palette nodes
2023/05/24 19:30:15
[info]
FlowForge HTTP Authentication Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:30:15
[info]
FlowForge Team Library Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:30:15
[]
FlowForge Light Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:30:15
[]
FlowForge Dark Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:30:22
[system]
Node-RED hang detected.
2023/05/24 19:30:22
[system]
Stopping Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:30:29
[system]
Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023/05/24 19:30:29
[system]
Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 44s
2023/05/24 19:30:29
[system]
Starting Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:30:43
[info]
Welcome to Node-RED
===================
2023/05/24 19:30:43
[info]
Node-RED version: v3.0.2
2023/05/24 19:30:43
[info]
Node.js version: v16.16.0
2023/05/24 19:30:43
[info]
Linux 5.15.49-linuxkit arm64 LE
2023/05/24 19:30:55
[info]
Loading palette nodes
2023/05/24 19:30:57
[info]
FlowForge HTTP Authentication Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:30:57
[info]
FlowForge Team Library Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:30:57
[]
FlowForge Light Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:30:57
[]
FlowForge Dark Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[warn]
------------------------------------------------------
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[warn]
[@flowforge/nr-project-nodes/project-link] Error: Project Link nodes cannot be loaded outside of FlowForge EE environment (line:6)
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[warn]
[@flowforge/nr-file-nodes/file] 'file in' already registered by module node-red
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[warn]
------------------------------------------------------
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[info]
Settings file : /data/settings.js
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[info]
Context store : 'default' [module=memory]
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[info]
Server now running at http://127.0.0.1:1880/
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[warn]
Encrypted credentials not found
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[info]
Starting flows
2023/05/24 19:31:06
[info]
Started flows
2023/05/24 19:31:07
[system]
Node-RED hang detected.
2023/05/24 19:31:07
[system]
Stopping Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:31:07
[info]
Stopping flows
2023/05/24 19:31:07
[info]
Stopped flows
2023/05/24 19:31:07
[system]
Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023/05/24 19:31:07
[system]
Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 38s
2023/05/24 19:31:07
[system]
Starting Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:31:20
[info]
Welcome to Node-RED
===================
2023/05/24 19:31:20
[info]
Node-RED version: v3.0.2
2023/05/24 19:31:20
[info]
Node.js version: v16.16.0
2023/05/24 19:31:20
[info]
Linux 5.15.49-linuxkit arm64 LE
2023/05/24 19:31:34
[info]
Loading palette nodes
2023/05/24 19:31:36
[info]
FlowForge HTTP Authentication Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:31:36
[info]
FlowForge Team Library Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:31:36
[]
FlowForge Light Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:31:36
[]
FlowForge Dark Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:31:44
[warn]
------------------------------------------------------
2023/05/24 19:31:44
[warn]
[@flowforge/nr-project-nodes/project-link] Error: Project Link nodes cannot be loaded outside of FlowForge EE environment (line:6)
2023/05/24 19:31:44
[warn]
[@flowforge/nr-file-nodes/file] 'file in' already registered by module node-red
2023/05/24 19:31:44
[warn]
------------------------------------------------------
2023/05/24 19:31:44
[info]
Settings file : /data/settings.js
2023/05/24 19:31:44
[info]
Context store : 'default' [module=memory]
2023/05/24 19:31:45
[info]
Server now running at http://127.0.0.1:1880/
2023/05/24 19:31:45
[system]
Node-RED hang detected.
2023/05/24 19:31:45
[system]
Stopping Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:31:46
[system]
Node-RED exited rc=0 signal=null
2023/05/24 19:31:46
[system]
Node-RED unexpectedly stopped after: 39s
2023/05/24 19:31:46
[system]
Node-RED restart loop detected. Restarting in safe mode.
2023/05/24 19:31:46
[system]
Starting Node-RED
2023/05/24 19:32:05
[info]
Welcome to Node-RED
===================
2023/05/24 19:32:05
[info]
Node-RED version: v3.0.2
2023/05/24 19:32:05
[info]
Node.js version: v16.16.0
2023/05/24 19:32:05
[info]
Linux 5.15.49-linuxkit arm64 LE
2023/05/24 19:32:17
[info]
Loading palette nodes
2023/05/24 19:32:19
[info]
FlowForge HTTP Authentication Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:32:19
[info]
FlowForge Team Library Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:32:19
[]
FlowForge Light Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:32:19
[]
FlowForge Dark Theme Plugin loaded
2023/05/24 19:32:24
[system]
Node-RED hang detected.
2023/05/24 19:32:24
[system]
Stopping Node-RED

```

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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 17:45 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/13 "2023-05-24T17:45:55Z")

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Okay, so I took an older Docker image 1.5.0 - it's up and running, but I can't access the Node-Red interface. So I'm busy checking why this images/container isn't accessible

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**Author:** ![grant.cpt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@grant.cpt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/grant.cpt)\
**Post date:** [24 May 2023 17:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/14 "2023-05-24T17:48:33Z")

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Would there be a reason why the Flowforge images doesn't public any ports?

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2023 12:28 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/15 "2023-05-25T12:28:29Z")

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Hi @grant.cpt did you get past these issues?

If so, can you tell us what you did?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![hardillb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hardillb/32/12373_2.png) [@hardillb](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hardillb)\
**Post date:** [25 May 2023 13:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/16 "2023-05-25T13:37:15Z")

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Because all the access is run through the NGINX proxy, there should be no direct access to the running containers

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [24 July 2023 13:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flowforge-issue/78662/17 "2023-07-24T13:37:22Z")

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