# Flows and dashboard palette disappeared

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [2 April 2023 12:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156 "2023-04-02T12:03:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![hary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hary/32/12340_2.png) [@hary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hary)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2023 17:11 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/21 "2023-04-04T17:11:09Z")

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- I didn't enable the overlay filesystem enabled.
- The disk (witch is by now an USB stick) seems to work ok.
- When I just started the pi half an hour ago, the flow I made yesterday was still present.
- Nodered was maybe installed 1 week ago.

```auto
pi@pi3:~ $ ls -l /var/log/nodered-install*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 08:55 /var/log/nodered-install.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7665 Mar 24 18:25 /var/log/nodered-install.log.1
pi@pi3:~ $ 

```

Has it been installed on Mar 24 and reinstalled on Apr 2 ? Exactly what I say ! I installed nodered about 1 week ago and may flows and the dashboard palette disappeared this week end !  
How is that possible I did reinstall nodered without noticing it?  
In the same time, I've been doing so many manipulation with mosquitto witch refused to work as intended. I might have thought reinstalling mosquitto but instead reinstalled nodered ....

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2023 17:26 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/22 "2023-04-04T17:26:20Z")

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I don't think there is any significance to the zero bytes file from Apr 2.  
Reinstalling Node-red by using the install script does not delete any existing flows.

Just in case you reinstalled the OS while distracted ( 🙃 ) **stat / | grep Birth** should tell you.

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**Author:** ![marcus-j-davies](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/marcus-j-davies/32/103435_2.png) [@marcus-j-davies](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/marcus-j-davies)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2023 17:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/23 "2023-04-04T17:36:51Z")

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Open up an SSH session then Up Arrow a few times to see any hystorical command you might have run to cause the disappearance? - a Long shot indeed, but sometimes might just uncover the reason

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2023 17:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/24 "2023-04-04T17:40:06Z")

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> [@hary](#):
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> The disk (which is by now an USB stick)

Hmm. Did you recently switch from SD boot to USB?

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**Author:** ![hary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hary/32/12340_2.png) [@hary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hary)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2023 18:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/25 "2023-04-04T18:17:03Z")

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```auto
pi@pi3:~ $ stat / | grep Birth
 Birth: 2023-02-21 05:07:24.000000000 +0100
pi@pi3:~ $ 

```

The only time I switch from SD to USB was maybe 2 weeks ago.  
By the time the USB boot worked, I didn't have any more reason to switch back to the SD card.

I think we'll stop there. I'll redo my flows, that's it.  
I hope it won't happen again.

@ [marcus-j-davies](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/marcus-j-davies) I've been doing so many things since ...might be a pure waste to look for I don't know what.

I thanks you all for your help and expertise, indeed.  
Really nice to have you on Nodered forum.

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2023 18:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/26 "2023-04-04T18:36:38Z")

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Your flows may be sitting on the SD card.

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**Author:** ![hary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hary/32/12340_2.png) [@hary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hary)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2023 19:01 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/27 "2023-04-04T19:01:32Z")

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I just had a look, but there is only a small flow I made at the beginning before switching to the USB boot.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [3 June 2023 19:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-and-dashboard-palette-disappeared/77156/28 "2023-06-03T19:02:33Z")

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