# Flows Disappeared

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [12 July 2020 06:45 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935 "2020-07-12T06:45:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![craigcurtin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/94ad74/32.png) [@craigcurtin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/craigcurtin)\
**Post date:** [12 July 2020 20:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/42 "2020-07-12T20:44:08Z")

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And in the meantime i hope you have backed up each of your other PIs ?

Bad things come in 3's

Crag

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**Author:** ![Peter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/peter/32/25135_2.png) [@Peter](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Peter)\
**Post date:** [12 July 2020 20:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/43 "2020-07-12T20:48:47Z")

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HI @craigcurtin - I sure did !!!!

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**Author:** ![cymplecy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/cymplecy/32/2773_2.png) [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)\
**Post date:** [12 July 2020 21:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/44 "2020-07-12T21:00:52Z")

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There's another thread running at moment about OLED's not working with recent Node-RED/node/npm versions so you may have run into that (or similar) problem ☹

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**Author:** ![Peter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/peter/32/25135_2.png) [@Peter](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Peter)\
**Post date:** [12 July 2020 21:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/45 "2020-07-12T21:17:53Z")

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Hey @cymplecy, I have fixed my OLED issue .... was a typo in my function converting and preparing the text to be displayed ( paload ..... (y) missing in cation )

```auto
msg.pa **y** load = {
    x:10,
    y:20,
    text:msg.payload
}
return msg;

```

Yea,,, head slap !!!

But thank you anyway for the suggestion, will keep in mind for future issues

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**Author:** ![Peter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/peter/32/25135_2.png) [@Peter](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Peter)\
**Post date:** [12 July 2020 21:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/46 "2020-07-12T21:25:28Z")

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I Just would like this opportunity to thank everyone here in NR for great support and assistance ,

Although i did not manage to recover my backups, i, unfortunately, had to rebuild everything, i did manage to work from a backup that was few days old and can say with joy that everything is back as it was and my whole system LoRaWAN authentication access control system is working like a charm and completed.

much of appreciation and especially thanks to @Steve-Mcl and @knolleary for being super starts in assisting this Rookeey / dummy !!

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [12 July 2020 21:31 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/47 "2020-07-12T21:31:09Z")

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Good that you are now back working, it's often a steep learning curve (I'm still climbing!!).  
As your issue is no longer critical, I've removed it from the forum title.

All the best Peter.

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**Author:** ![cymplecy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/cymplecy/32/2773_2.png) [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)\
**Post date:** [12 July 2020 21:45 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/48 "2020-07-12T21:45:27Z")

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PS  
I HIGHLY recommend this simple (as long as you've got a dropbox account that is) for daily backing up - only been using it for a few days but its looks like a very simple backup solution

> [@node-RED Backup Flow](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-backup-flow/25033):
>
> I read a [post a few days ago](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-everything-connection-lost-to-machine-error-subflow-connections/24782) by @Trying_to_learn about losing his node-RED flow, which had taken him no doubt many hours to construct, and as his backup was on the same machine - he lost that too. So... I've spent a few days looking at off-site storage, and stumbled upon node-red-contrib-dsm which was written by @cflurin complete with an example flow to perform automated backups to dropbox. [dsm] I played about with the configuration, and made some changes to the way that the backups are stor…

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/8/a/8a02856d2c1bfd3bb0c0ea2058ff8ec9d7a3bbfa.png)

PS the nights it missed off were nights I was updating NR and forgot to restart it!

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**Author:** ![Nodi.Rubrum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/nodi.rubrum/32/107482_2.png) [@Nodi.Rubrum](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Nodi.Rubrum)\
**Post date:** [13 July 2020 18:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/49 "2020-07-13T18:51:49Z")

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Nuts... I created my own drop box thingie almost immediately... never once did I stop to ask if someone might have done it already... what a numbskull. Just for discussion, I first used a simple CMD script on a Windows 10 PC, pscp (part of putty) to pull the entire .node-red directory from each Pi. This works well, if rather simplistic.

Since then, I have finished reworking my mausoleum Pi from an old 2 model B Pi to a new Pi4 with USB 3.0... it has a couple of giant USB disks, I archive everything to as a lazy mirror of each other. This Pi also is my core media server, Samba server, etc., when not archiving at night. Just need to finish a couple of flows to retire the CMD file, and all set. Oh, I use NTFS on the USB disks, so if I have to, I can grab one of the disks and run, and have easy access to all data. Pays to have a quick DR (Disaster Recovery) solution.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [27 July 2020 18:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/flows-disappeared/29935/50 "2020-07-27T18:51:54Z")

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