# Getting Automagic for Android messages back to Node-RED
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977
**Category:** General
**Created:** [8 June 2020 07:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977 "2020-06-08T07:51:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 07:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/1 "2020-06-08T07:51:16Z")
**10Jun20 - Edited the thread title to more accurate reflect its contents**
I've just discovered Automagic for Android and want to use it to forward WhatApp alerts from phone to Node-RED
So chose email as method of sending from phone and tried setting up email node with my gmail account but ran into all the issues over less secure apps/2FA/App passwords
Plus it pollutes my gmail inbox
So I'm thinking - someone else must have just set up a separate email provider for this sort of IoT use and could recommend one?
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:07 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/2 "2020-06-08T08:07:10Z")
Couldn't you use telegram instead of email?
Just an idea.
> [@cymplecy](#):
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> recommend one
you can always create another gmail account?
EDIT...
If you put a plus in the email you can set rules in gmail to auto delete emails
e.g suppose your gmail address is `simon@gmáil.com` you can use `simon+automagic@gmáil.com` and it still comes to you BUT its identifiable an automated email that you can auto tag / auto delete etc.
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### Author:  [@michaelblight](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/michaelblight)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/3 "2020-06-08T08:08:40Z")
I just created a separate gmail account for NR, setup with an app password. When sending mail, I found if the from- and to-accounts are both the same, the mail appears in your sent folder, but not in your inbox.
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### Author:  [@E1cid](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/E1cid)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/4 "2020-06-08T08:09:48Z")
Never used automagic, I use Automate app for this. Automagic can send http request straight to node red
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/5 "2020-06-08T08:10:36Z")
> [@E1cid](#):
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> Automagic can send http request straight to node red
That might be better 👍 than my suggestions haha
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### Author:  [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:12 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/6 "2020-06-08T08:12:11Z")
I'd really hope that nothing can send an HTTP request to any of my Node-RED instances 🙂
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### Author:  [@afelix](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/afelix)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:12 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/7 "2020-06-08T08:12:33Z")
Http request requires it to be reachable from the outside. I’ve an http-to-mqtt cloud proxy set up for that.
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:14 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/8 "2020-06-08T08:14:01Z")
> [@cymplecy](#):
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> I'd really hope that nothing can send an HTTP request to any of my Node-RED
> [@afelix](#):
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> Http request requires it to be reachable from the outside
of course. brain not in gear yet 🙂
EDIT...
so introducing telegram might be a reasonable workaround?
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### Author:  [@E1cid](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/E1cid)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:14 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/9 "2020-06-08T08:14:57Z")
Thats why i use Automate as it has a cloud message receive so it can receive messages from the web to using https
I run a local Automate app to forward any received cloud messages to where ever i wish (after screening messages)
edit/
Example messages -
```auto
[["launch", "org.xbmc.kodi"]] - open Media player
[["webhook", "ifttt open_rear_door"]] -send webhook to iftt
[["launch", "org.mozilla.firefox|org.mozilla.gecko.LauncherActivity|android.intent.action.VIEW|192.168.1.1"]] - open firefox at a web page.
[["webhook", "vera_on 8 0|vera_on 31 0|vera_on 19 0|vera_on 38 0|vera_on 43 0|vera_on 82 0|vera_on 41 0|vera_on 106 1|vera_on 85 1|node_routine_off TV_off 171"], ["speak", "good night|sleep well|see you tomorrow|100|en_GB|0|0x3|0x3"]] - send multiple webhook requests and a speak command.
```
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### Author:  [@E1cid](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/E1cid)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:42 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/10 "2020-06-08T08:42:28Z")
No, but i could send an email to your node-red email account. Also how many servers will your unencrypted email pass through?
If you want to encrypt your emails use ProtonMail
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### Author:  [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/11 "2020-06-08T08:46:58Z")
> [@E1cid](#):
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> Also how many servers will your unencrypted email pass through?
I'm hoping that gmail from my phone IS encrypted
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### Author:  [@E1cid](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/E1cid)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/12 "2020-06-08T08:50:09Z")
Have you told it to send encrypted?
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### Author:  [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 08:52 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/13 "2020-06-08T08:52:25Z")
Not explicitly - I just assumed that sort of thing came as standard nowadays
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### Author:  [@afelix](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/afelix)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 11:26 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/14 "2020-06-08T11:26:19Z")
As a pre-caution, you can check sender and have a specific (generated) token be part of the subject/as subject.
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### Author:  [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 12:35 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/15 "2020-06-08T12:35:38Z")
> [@cymplecy](#):
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> gmail from my phone IS encrypted
Only between you and google - they then decrypt it so they can target the right Ads at you.
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### Author:  [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 12:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/16 "2020-06-08T12:40:08Z")
> [@dceejay](#):
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> Only between you and google - they then decrypt it so they can target the right Ads at you.
That's what I thought - as long as they don't pass on my secret sedition activities to the authorities - I'm happy 🙂
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### Author:  [@Dave](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Dave)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 13:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/17 "2020-06-08T13:10:33Z")
AutoMagic can send mqtt messages, I use it to send my tablet's battery state, the display state, dream time etc.
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### Author:  [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 13:15 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/18 "2020-06-08T13:15:32Z")
> [@Dave](#):
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> AutoMagic can send mqtt messages
mmm- that could work for me when phone is at home and connected to my LAN - got a link on how to do that as I didn't see it as one of the options in the app
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### Author:  [@Dave](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Dave)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 13:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/19 "2020-06-08T13:33:29Z")
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> This is not a standalone application: it requires Tasker (or similar, compatible applications) to work.
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> This plugin can only send messages to a MQTT broker. It does not support WebSockets.
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> Supports TLS v1.2 - add the certificate to your device's credential storage.
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> Null payload messages are not yet supported.
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> Source is available on github...
I use AutoMagic Premium and I have been using the mqtt publisher plugin for at least 2 years without issue.
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### Author:  [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)
#### Post date: [8 June 2020 15:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/getting-automagic-for-android-messages-back-to-node-red/27977/20 "2020-06-08T15:39:44Z")
> [@cymplecy](#):
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> my secret sedition activities to the authorities
well - only to the US ones... though the adverts you get may give your game away....
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