# Global installed nodes ar not available in palette

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [18 February 2020 09:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904 "2020-02-18T09:02:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![gugani](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/gugani/32/17234_2.png) [@gugani](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gugani)\
**Post date:** [18 February 2020 09:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904/1 "2020-02-18T09:02:17Z")

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Hi, I have installed Node Red in a Beaglebone Black with debian Buster via apt:  
`apt install nodejs npm bb-node-red-installer`  
Everything is working as expected. The problem comes when I add some nodes via global npm install, I restart Node Red but the nodes are not available in the palette.  
If I look for modules installed I find that Node Red preinstalled nodes are in `/opt/node-red/lib/node_modules` and global installed module are in `/usr/local/lib/node_modules`  
I have installed nodes via global npm install in other systems with no problem. Any advice on how to install the nodes via npm install?

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [18 February 2020 09:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904/2 "2020-02-18T09:10:57Z")

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You don't need to globally install them.

Either install them using the Palette Manager in the editor, or run the npm install command in `~/.node-red`.

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**Author:** ![gugani](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/gugani/32/17234_2.png) [@gugani](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gugani)\
**Post date:** [18 February 2020 10:16 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904/3 "2020-02-18T10:16:52Z")

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Thanks for your fast response. I had already tested the Palette Manager install and it was working ok.  
To put all in context, I am trying to deploy Node Red with Ansible, I first apt install bb-node-red-installer and then the nodes with npm global install. All was working fine, but I updated to buster 10.2, I was previously using 10.1 image ([rcn-ee.com](http://rcn-ee.com) images), and I have found that the systemd service start script changed in the image update, and perhaps that is the problem.  
Before:

```auto
[Service]
Type=simple
# Run as normal pi user - change to the user name you wish to run Node-RED as
User=debian
Group=debian
WorkingDirectory=/home/debian

Environment="NODE_PATH=/usr/local/lib/node_modules"
Environment="NODE_OPTIONS=--max_old_space_size=256"

ExecStart=/usr/bin/env /usr/bin/nodejs $NODE_OPTIONS /usr/local/bin/node-red $NODE_RED_OPTIONS

```

After image update:

```auto
[Service]
Type=simple
# Run as normal pi user - change to the user name you wish to run Node-RED as
User=node-red
Group=node-red
WorkingDirectory=/var/lib/node-red

Environment="NODE_PATH=/opt/node-red/lib/node_modules"
Environment="NODE_OPTIONS=--max_old_space_size=256"
Environment="HOME=/var/lib/node-red"

WorkingDirectory=/var/lib/node-red
ExecStart=/usr/bin/env /opt/node-red/bin/node $NODE_OPTIONS /opt/node-red/lib/node_modules/node-red/red.js $NODE_RED_OPTIONS

```

I will continue looking for a solution.

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [18 February 2020 14:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904/4 "2020-02-18T14:00:04Z")

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Well, given that you are not using a Pi, I should think that might be a clue. The service file is set up to work on a Pi without changes but if you run on a different platform, as it says, you need to adjust the configuration.

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**Author:** ![gugani](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/gugani/32/17234_2.png) [@gugani](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gugani)\
**Post date:** [21 February 2020 13:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904/5 "2020-02-21T13:47:33Z")

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I realized that the package `bb-node-red-installer` installs Node Red and its dependencies under `/opt/node-red`, with its own NODE\_PATH. If you want to install a node from terminal you have to do it in the systemd service configured User Directory for Node Red (`/var/lib/node-red/.node-red`), not globally. As @knolleary pointed in the first answer.  
Another important thing is that there is a `node-red` user executing Node Red, but this user has no permissions over beaglebone io, i2c.... Doing `sudo usermod -a -G dialout,i2c,iio,spi,pwm,gpio node-red` solves the problem.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [6 March 2020 13:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/global-installed-nodes-ar-not-available-in-palette/21904/6 "2020-03-06T13:47:41Z")

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