# I can't find Manage Palette

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [20 May 2019 07:55 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312 "2019-05-20T07:55:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![VictorKobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@VictorKobayashi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/VictorKobayashi)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 07:55 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/1 "2019-05-20T07:55:08Z")

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Hello,

Currently I have the node-red version v0.20.5 (latest version, I think) and I can't find the option manage palette in the menu in the top right corner.

Someone knows how to fix it ?

Thanks !

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 07:58 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/2 "2019-05-20T07:58:30Z")

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You should have a message in the log when NR starts saying the Manage Palette feature has been disabled and a reason for it.

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**Author:** ![VictorKobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@VictorKobayashi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/VictorKobayashi)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 08:06 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/3 "2019-05-20T08:06:52Z")

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Actually, I have the message "Palette editor disabled: npm version too old. Requires npm \>= 3.x" but I already updated the npm.

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 08:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/4 "2019-05-20T08:33:45Z")

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what does `npm -v` from the command line report ?

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**Author:** ![VictorKobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@VictorKobayashi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/VictorKobayashi)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 08:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/5 "2019-05-20T08:46:35Z")

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2.15.12.

How can I download the version 3.x ?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![zenofmud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/zenofmud/32/316_2.png) [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 09:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/6 "2019-05-20T09:02:22Z")

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have you googled 'how to update npm'?

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 09:18 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/7 "2019-05-20T09:18:33Z")

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before you do that - which version of node.js are you using ? `node -v`

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**Author:** ![VictorKobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@VictorKobayashi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/VictorKobayashi)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 09:57 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/8 "2019-05-20T09:57:25Z")

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I tried some commands like 🙂

sudo npm install -g --unsafe-perm node-red  
cd ~/.node-red  
npm outdated  
npm install foo

but it doesn't work ☹

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**Author:** ![VictorKobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@VictorKobayashi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/VictorKobayashi)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 09:58 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/9 "2019-05-20T09:58:07Z")

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The version is v8.11.1

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**Author:** ![bakman2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/bakman2/32/6207_2.png) [@bakman2](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/bakman2)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 12:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/10 "2019-05-20T12:53:57Z")

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Both npm and node are not up to date.

sudo npm install -g n  
sudo n stable

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**Author:** ![VictorKobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@VictorKobayashi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/VictorKobayashi)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 13:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/11 "2019-05-20T13:25:15Z")

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Bakman2 thank you very much !

I solved my problem typing theses commands !!

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 13:55 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/12 "2019-05-20T13:55:29Z")

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@bakman2 - please don't recommend using n - if the user then tries to use our update script it will fail.

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**Author:** ![bakman2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/bakman2/32/6207_2.png) [@bakman2](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/bakman2)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 15:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/13 "2019-05-20T15:53:58Z")

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hmm interesting note. It is the only way I know how to update nodejs without node-red (update) issues.

Is there a "better" way ?

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 16:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/14 "2019-05-20T16:17:46Z")

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> [@bakman2](#):
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> Is there a "better" way ?

It depends entirely on operating system and how Node was installed in the first place. You cannot assume everyone uses `n`.

I personally use `nvm` - but again, that is more for developers who have to routinely switch versions then for production systems.

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2019 16:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/i-cant-find-manage-palette/11312/15 "2019-05-20T16:41:40Z")

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and nvm is even worse for end users... as it's a user shell enhancement so running as a service gets you the default node.js and not the nvm one... (but yes fine for developers not running as a service)