# I've lost control of Node Red, how can I control it back?

**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586
**Category:** General
**Created:** [4 February 2019 16:28 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586 "2019-02-04T16:28:04Z")
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### Author: ![Barabba11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@Barabba11](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Barabba11)
#### Post date: [4 February 2019 16:28 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586/1 "2019-02-04T16:28:04Z")

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Hi, I've latest firefox, Java, RAM is ok, internet and connection ok, all is fine.  
I think I've mad a mistake in my flow, maybe recursive messages are looping, I was very careful but it can happen I made mistake, when I open node red in browser is very slow, and I can't open anynode more.  
I've no msg debug connected, it should be a loop. I reboot Rasberry and my PC but didn't help. Now I can't interact more with flow and try to solve, it freezes when pen the node, and also I can't ore browse othr sites since ssems Firefox waiting for it.  
Thank you for help

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### Author: ![Andrei](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/andrei/32/10446_2.png) [@Andrei](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Andrei)
#### Post date: [4 February 2019 16:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586/2 "2019-02-04T16:36:41Z")

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The recommendation from [another thread](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-continually-fails-and-restarts/7360/7) in the forum:

start node-red with new blank flow `node-red newflow.json`

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### Author: ![Barabba11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@Barabba11](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Barabba11)
#### Post date: [4 February 2019 16:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586/3 "2019-02-04T16:36:55Z")

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I've an automatic inject at 100ms, I download the flow.json file and change it every 100s, now it's slight better but I've lot of difficulties..

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### Author: ![ukmoose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/ukmoose/32/13_2.png) [@ukmoose](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ukmoose)
#### Post date: [4 February 2019 16:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586/4 "2019-02-04T16:41:57Z")

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if you start with a new flow as suggested you can then import your old flow and change it before deploying

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### Author: ![Barabba11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@Barabba11](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Barabba11)
#### Post date: [4 February 2019 18:57 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586/5 "2019-02-04T18:57:44Z")

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ok thanks, would be lovely to introduce a button to stop Flow from the board, if necessary, thanks.  
Just reporting you that when the flow is complex it is not recomended to use 0,1 seconds, I haven't loops, just that was enough to freeze Node red

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### Author: ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)
#### Post date: [4 February 2019 19:06 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/ive-lost-control-of-node-red-how-can-i-control-it-back/7586/6 "2019-02-04T19:06:59Z")

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In next release (0.20) there will be a command line option `--safe` that will start Node-RED but without running the flow - so you can edit it in place before deploying, so you can fix this sort of thing.

(0.1 seconds can be ok - depending on the hardware you are running on and the complexity of the flow being run).
