# Lost the Pallet manager

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [21 April 2024 17:27 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393 "2024-04-21T17:27:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:27 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/1 "2024-04-21T17:27:20Z")

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Running NR on a Ubuntu system (X86 cpu) and I've just noticed I don't have pallet manager in my menu - I've been running NR for a coupe of years on the same computer and I've not had this problem before - any suggestions?

 ![Clip_5](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/8/d/8da3f01a69395b5a4111bb7144cc3c8fc87e6627.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:32 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/2 "2024-04-21T17:32:40Z")

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Usually happens when npm is not installed. What does `npm -v` show?

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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:35 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/3 "2024-04-21T17:35:44Z")

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it shows V10.5.0 and then it goes on to say "it's known not to run on JS V14 .........." and a lot of other blurb

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/4 "2024-04-21T17:36:28Z")

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What does `node -v` show?

And do you have `nvm` or `n` or any other node version manager installed?

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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/5 "2024-04-21T17:37:39Z")

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it shows 14.21.3

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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:38 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/6 "2024-04-21T17:38:34Z")

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not sure about nvm, how do I check

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/7 "2024-04-21T17:39:14Z")

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> [@Tanglefoot](#):
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> shows 14.21.3

You really should be on v18 at minimum. 14 is end of life (unsupported) as is 16.

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/8 "2024-04-21T17:40:11Z")

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Did you install a version manager?

Enter `nvm`  
Enter `n`  
Do you get anything?

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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:42 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/9 "2024-04-21T17:42:43Z")

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Both options return command not found

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/10 "2024-04-21T17:47:18Z")

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~~There is your answer.~~

~~What about n & nvm?~~

Sorry. I misread your response.

I recommend updating everything

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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/11 "2024-04-21T17:50:48Z")

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> [@Steve-Mcl](#):
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> What about n & nvm?

I don't understand what you mean - what about it? It appears they are not installed.  
Anyway I looks as though I'll have to try and update everything, not sure how to do that but I expect I can Goggle it. I'll back up all my flows first  
Thanks for your help Steve

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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/12 "2024-04-21T17:51:21Z")

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I think our replies crossed

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/13 "2024-04-21T17:51:58Z")

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> [@Steve-Mcl](#):
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> Sorry. I misread your response.

@Tanglefoot ^

I recommend you update using the official script & add ` --node18` to the end of the command.

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**Author:** ![Tanglefoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Tanglefoot](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Tanglefoot)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 17:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/14 "2024-04-21T17:53:44Z")

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Ok, thanks. I'll give it a go once I've done the backups  
With my experience with Linux I expect the air will turn blue 😂

Thanks again for your help

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [5 May 2024 17:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lost-the-pallet-manager/87393/15 "2024-05-05T17:54:21Z")

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