# Manage palette is missing through remote connections

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [10 October 2024 09:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283 "2024-10-10T09:41:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![j2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@j2002](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/j2002)\
**Post date:** [10 October 2024 09:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283/1 "2024-10-10T09:41:28Z")

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I have Node-RED running in a Raspberry Pi. If I connect with my laptop web browser through Wi-Fi I can see Manage palette, but, if I open local web browser I can´t. My web browser is Chrome and, local one, Chromium. Any ideas? How can I update then installed nodes if not connected to my Wi-Fi?

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [10 October 2024 09:49 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283/2 "2024-10-10T09:49:40Z")

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Do you mean the 'manage palette' menu item is only visible when you access Node-RED remotely? Or something else?

Can you check for any errors in the browser's developer console?

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**Author:** ![j2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@j2002](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/j2002)\
**Post date:** [10 October 2024 10:13 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283/3 "2024-10-10T10:13:22Z")

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That's exactly. Manage palette is only visible if RPI is connected to local Wi-Fi through Chrome on my laptop. Its not available on local browser.  
This is what I see on console:

```auto
vendor.js?v=a28c309bf99d:4 JQMIGRATE: Migrate is installed, version 3.3.0
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 Node-RED: 4.0.1
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 Versions
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 jQuery 3.5.1
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 jQuery UI 1.13.2
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 ACE 1.4.12
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 MONACO 0.49.0
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 D3 3.0.3
red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16 Projects disabled
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16
VM22:338 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'label')
    at <anonymous>:338:76
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Array.handleDebugMessage (<anonymous>:333:47)
    at i.onmessage (red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16:37056)
(anonymous) @ VM22:338
handleDebugMessage @ VM22:333
i.onmessage @ red.min.js?v=a28c309bf99d:16

```

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [10 October 2024 10:14 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283/4 "2024-10-10T10:14:11Z")

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Can you share what version of Chromium you are using?

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**Author:** ![j2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@j2002](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/j2002)\
**Post date:** [10 October 2024 10:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283/5 "2024-10-10T10:39:33Z")

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I'm a bit of an idiot. It is not missed; it is only "out of the screen" as it has low resolution. Sorry for the silliness.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [24 October 2024 10:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing-through-remote-connections/92283/6 "2024-10-24T10:40:00Z")

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