# Manage Palette Is Missing

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [5 June 2019 15:26 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876 "2019-06-05T15:26:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![tarihoran20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tarihoran20](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/tarihoran20)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 06:38 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/22 "2019-06-06T06:38:02Z")

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As pi:

pi@raspberrypi:~ cd /home/pi/.node-red pi@raspberrypi:~/.node-red ls  
flows\_raspberrypi\_cred.json lib package.json  
flows\_raspberrypi.json node\_modules settings.js  
pi@raspberrypi:~/.node-red $

As root:

root@raspberrypi:~# cd /home/pi/.node-red  
root@raspberrypi:/home/pi/.node-red# ls  
flows\_raspberrypi\_cred.json lib package.json  
flows\_raspberrypi.json node\_modules settings.js  
root@raspberrypi:/home/pi/.node-red#

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**Author:** ![ukmoose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/ukmoose/32/13_2.png) [@ukmoose](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ukmoose)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 06:57 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/23 "2019-06-06T06:57:23Z")

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From your paste when you logged in as root:

> [@tarihoran20](#):
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> 6 Jun 02:38:42 - [info] Settings file : /root/.node-red/settings.js  
> 6 Jun 02:38:42 - [info] Context store : 'default' [module=memory]  
> 6 Jun 02:38:42 - [info] User directory : /root/.node-red  
> 6 Jun 02:38:42 - [warn] Projects disabled : editorTheme.projects.enabled=false  
> 6 Jun 02:38:42 - [info] Flows file : /root/.node-red/flows\_raspberrypi.json

Do you see it is picking up a different flows file?

There should be no need to run Node-RED as root or using the sudo command. It will cause you more problems.

I suggest you look at the size of the files in the two .node-red directories  
/root/.node-red  
and  
/pi/.node-red

to work out which one you were using with your old flows.

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**Author:** ![tarihoran20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tarihoran20](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/tarihoran20)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 07:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/24 "2019-06-06T07:02:25Z")

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could you please show me how to see the size? with command or explorer ?

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**Author:** ![ukmoose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/ukmoose/32/13_2.png) [@ukmoose](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ukmoose)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 07:21 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/25 "2019-06-06T07:21:13Z")

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[https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+list+file+sizes+unix](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+list+file+sizes+unix)

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**Author:** ![tarihoran20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tarihoran20](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/tarihoran20)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 07:45 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/26 "2019-06-06T07:45:42Z")

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there is size in file flows\_raspberrypi.json

and i check it with nano command, it turns out all of my flow. but how to put it into node-red again ?

i tried to copy the clipboard but it doesn't work

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**Author:** ![tarihoran20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tarihoran20](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/tarihoran20)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 07:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/27 "2019-06-06T07:46:22Z")

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![a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/2X/b/bbd5e55ce0c4e02b258109015be6755f0df43326.png)

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**Author:** ![ukmoose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/ukmoose/32/13_2.png) [@ukmoose](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ukmoose)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 07:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/28 "2019-06-06T07:50:02Z")

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so what happens if you start node-RED using the correct command as user pi?

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**Author:** ![tarihoran20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tarihoran20](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/tarihoran20)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 08:11 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/29 "2019-06-06T08:11:16Z")

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i have try that but after i copied the clipboard through the explorer file and paste it into the node-red. and my flow coming back.

the result is same between pi or root when i run the start command

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**Author:** ![tarihoran20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tarihoran20](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/tarihoran20)\
**Post date:** [6 June 2019 10:21 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/30 "2019-06-06T10:21:59Z")

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thank you for helping me solved the problem

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**Author:** ![Hard-a-Port](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hard-a-port/32/6606_2.png) [@Hard-a-Port](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Hard-a-Port)\
**Post date:** [12 November 2019 06:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/manage-palette-is-missing/11876/31 "2019-11-12T06:08:59Z")

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Best Response. This should be highlighted for newbies ( like me ). Was pulling my hair out...

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