# Message tracing for beginners

**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/message-tracing-for-beginners/92287
**Category:** Developing Nodes
**Created:** [10 October 2024 10:58 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/message-tracing-for-beginners/92287 "2024-10-10T10:58:01Z")
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### Author: ![gregorius](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/gregorius/32/73816_2.png) [@gregorius](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gregorius)
#### Post date: [10 October 2024 18:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/message-tracing-for-beginners/92287/10 "2024-10-10T18:04:00Z")

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I can understand your point but most of the stuff I'm doing is extremely niche, e.g., turning the editor into a dashboard or using it as a MindMap or using it for creating decorative flows (i.e. art!) or even converting flows into editable 3D flows. And I'd rather be doing that than creating MVPs for others for exactly zero financial benefit - personally I have exactly zero use-cases for a monitoring node.

When there is something that I think is useful, it remains in [pull request state](https://github.com/node-red/node-red/pull/4880) without feedback nor comment - so it doesn't seem to be important for others - fair enough, all good. If I do need that feature, then - thanks to the incredible wonderful flexibility of Node-RED - I can install my [own node](https://flowhub.org/f/390d041cf14946dc) & this is super simple (especially since I can use my own flowhub integration).

And similarly for msg tracing that is now part of the [0.8.1 version of the introspection package](https://flows.nodered.org/node/@gregoriusrippenstein/node-red-contrib-introspection) - there is now a checkbox that I can toggle message tracing on/off. If someone whats to put this in the debugger, then there is the [commit](https://github.com/gorenje/node-red-contrib-introspection/commit/1c736da91643a2ede48c8d702604e4b8413757bb) that basically describes the functionality.

But I have no desire to get involved in project management overhead for something that I do for fun and giggles.

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