# Message tracing for beginners

**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/message-tracing-for-beginners/92287
**Category:** Developing Nodes
**Created:** [10 October 2024 10:58 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/message-tracing-for-beginners/92287 "2024-10-10T10:58:01Z")
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### Author: ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)
#### Post date: [10 October 2024 17:05 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/message-tracing-for-beginners/92287/9 "2024-10-10T17:05:03Z")

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Just to repeat (and expand on) what I said in the very same slack conversation:

I strongly feel there is a place for _some_ form of these tools in the core of Node-RED; some basic capabilities that will greatly enhance the flow editing experience. Having lots of people create their own plugins is a great learning experience for them, but it doesn't moving the core Node-RED forward at all. We already have the Node-RED Flow Debugger plugin - a lot of these are natural extensions of what it does already - but we haven't had a single contribution to that plugin.

There's nothing wrong with that; its open source and no-one is under any obligation to contribute. It just puts the burden on a small few to try to move things forward when there's already a long wish list of items like this.

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