# New Shelly wall display (and alternatives?)

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961>\
**Category:** Hardware\
**Created:** [31 August 2023 19:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961 "2023-08-31T19:22:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![BartButenaers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/bartbutenaers/32/10476_2.png) [@BartButenaers](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/BartButenaers)\
**Post date:** [31 August 2023 19:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/1 "2023-08-31T19:22:54Z")

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Hi folks,

Long time ago we had a discussion in this community about small wall mount touch screens with embedded temperature and humidity sensor.

Today in the live stream from Shelly they presented some new devices, including their new [wall display](https://www.youtube.com/live/JSFJSq-odcI?si=sEznp6LrUrGo2AzB&t=1997):

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/0/5/05e078d33e8b2d9f2cfb8aded8a2ebb8336283b8.jpeg)

It is an in-wall display, so you will need a small hole in your wall.  
Just sharing it here because it might be of interest for some community members...

BTW I don't know if it will cost a small fortune 🙂

Bart

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**Author:** ![zenofmud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/zenofmud/32/316_2.png) [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)\
**Post date:** [31 August 2023 20:12 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/2 "2023-08-31T20:12:07Z")

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[https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-wall-display/shelly-wall-display](https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-wall-display/shelly-wall-display)  
Shelly Wall Display

€119.00Excl. VAT

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [31 August 2023 20:31 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/3 "2023-08-31T20:31:39Z")

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Hmm, I could probably buy a full Windows or Android tablet for that 🙂

I wonder why they felt the need to patent their "relay touch control"? Even for an electronics simpleton like me that doesn't seem like a complex thing to implement?

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [31 August 2023 23:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/4 "2023-08-31T23:47:35Z")

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I'm actually looking at designing something similar to fit a standard single gang wall box.

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**Author:** ![ghayne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/ghayne/32/39_2.png) [@ghayne](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ghayne)\
**Post date:** [1 September 2023 11:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/5 "2023-09-01T11:08:59Z")

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> [@TotallyInformation](#):
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> Hmm, I could probably buy a full Windows or Android tablet for that 🙂

I just had a quick look, you could indeed. I have always thought that Shelly products were a little overpriced for what they offer.

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**Author:** ![stefan24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/stefan24/32/23075_2.png) [@stefan24](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/stefan24)\
**Post date:** [1 September 2023 14:29 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/6 "2023-09-01T14:29:17Z")

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Another alternative is the Lanbon L8 as described by me at [Lanbon L8 (switch with display) with OpenHASP](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/lanbon-l8-switch-with-display-with-openhasp/79645)  
It costs not half the price of the Shelly, but maybe more complicated to program and control. At least the Lanbon L8 has to be flashed with OpenHASP to gain the full flexibility and that might already be an obstacle for many people.

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**Author:** ![jmorris644](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/jmorris644/32/31964_2.png) [@jmorris644](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jmorris644)\
**Post date:** [3 September 2023 15:11 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/7 "2023-09-03T15:11:48Z")

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This is a nice option. I use this with node-red running on the Pi that is screwed to the back. There is also a $29 USD version

> **[Amazon.com: ElecLab Touchscreen Monitor 7 Inch DSI Capacitive LCD Display...](https://www.amazon.com/ElecLab-Raspberry-Touchscreen-Monitor-Capacitive/dp/B08LVC4KRM)**
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> Shop Amazon for ElecLab Touchscreen Monitor 7 Inch DSI Capacitive LCD Display 800x480 RS232/RS485 Speaker Bracket for RPI 4B 3B+ 3B 3A+ 2B B+ and find millions of items, delivered faster than ever.

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [7 September 2023 23:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/8 "2023-09-07T23:30:38Z")

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I had a look at some of the devices on openhasp and found this one -

> **[Wireless-Tag WT32S3-86V · HASwitchPlate/openHASP · Discussion #435](https://github.com/HASwitchPlate/openHASP/discussions/435)**
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> EDIT 2023-08-14: Added TR version 2023-04-03: Revised description Wireless Tag has finally the new WT32S3-86V SKU ready for shipping 🎉 This SKU is a replacement for the deprecated WT86-32-3ZW1 SKU ...

It looks nice so I ordered one to have a play with it. total cost ￡34.88 😃

Will report back how I get on with it....

[https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005908193645.html?spm=a2g0o.order\_list.order\_list\_main.5.2dd41802KnOGWX&gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm](https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005908193645.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.2dd41802KnOGWX&gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm)

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**Author:** ![BartButenaers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/bartbutenaers/32/10476_2.png) [@BartButenaers](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/BartButenaers)\
**Post date:** [8 September 2023 08:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/9 "2023-09-08T08:09:35Z")

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> [@Sean-McG](#):
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> Will report back how I get on with it...

Looking forward to that 🙏

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**Author:** ![SuperNinja](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/superninja/32/5761_2.png) [@SuperNinja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/SuperNinja)\
**Post date:** [8 September 2023 11:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/10 "2023-09-08T11:36:24Z")

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👍 me too

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**Author:** ![BartButenaers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/bartbutenaers/32/10476_2.png) [@BartButenaers](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/BartButenaers)\
**Post date:** [9 September 2023 05:35 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/11 "2023-09-09T05:35:43Z")

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Oeps, just saw this one passing by on the Shelly facebook forum:

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/0/e/0e2d5d38b13123509a5c7a53dd956de964fc8893.png)

Which is absolutely a no-go for me...

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**Author:** ![stefan24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/stefan24/32/23075_2.png) [@stefan24](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/stefan24)\
**Post date:** [9 September 2023 07:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/12 "2023-09-09T07:10:27Z")

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same for me. Thank you for forwarding this warning!

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**Author:** ![SuperNinja](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/superninja/32/5761_2.png) [@SuperNinja](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/SuperNinja)\
**Post date:** [11 September 2023 09:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/13 "2023-09-11T09:19:23Z")

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ooOOOoohhh 😪  
Wait and see "ESP32 equivalent" [https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display/80961/8?u=superninja](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display/80961/8) @Sean-McG

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [13 September 2023 12:21 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/14 "2023-09-13T12:21:15Z")

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Well it just cleared customs ........ 😃 😃 😃

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [14 September 2023 23:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/15 "2023-09-14T23:33:04Z")

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@SuperNinja @BartButenaers  
It turned up today - fast delivery 😉  
It a nice neat 480x480 4" IPS screen, The enclosure is well made and GPIOs are broken out to a socket so its easy to use jumper wires to connect up. I have it flashed with openhasp, connected to Wi-Fi and MQTT.

Just leaning how to design screens and send and receive data from it now 😃

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/9/c/9ca9e764789e965f362d4437a11ef571b8427964.png)

PS I could get 3 of these for the price of your shelly 🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![ralphwetzel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/ralphwetzel/32/53713_2.png) [@ralphwetzel](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ralphwetzel)\
**Post date:** [15 September 2023 06:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/16 "2023-09-15T06:03:55Z")

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> [@Sean-McG](#):
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> Just leaning how to design screens and send and receive data from it now 😃

Looks like this device could run as well [node-red-mcu](https://github.com/ralphwetzel/node-red-mcu-plugin).  
If so, screens could be NR dashboards & commanding / receiving data can be made possible by standard NR flows. There's already a [dashboard demo in the node-red-mcu repo](https://github.com/phoddie/node-red-mcu/tree/main/examples/dashboard/uitest) that you could use for initial experimenting.

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [15 September 2023 12:16 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/17 "2023-09-15T12:16:25Z")

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These seem to be a fairly new product, but given the possibilities and cheap price I imagine they will become very popular in the DIY home automation world. I could hardly find a multi gang momentary wall switch for this price 😉

Open hasp is just a matter of placing widgets on screen using json format. Then updating over MQTT to change properties. Some widgets like buttons etc send up, down, long press and hold messages back when touched. So it is actually quite easy to get started with. There is some scope for local scripting but I haven't explored that yet.

My preferred option would be Tasmota, as I'm already very familiar with that, and it allows lots of flexibility to connect additional hardware, sensors etc and includes local scripting on the device.

node-red-mcu could also be an interesting option, I think the configuration is probably a bit beyond my knowledge to get it working with this device. [datasheet](https://www.dropbox.com/s/g5z03ekfq4rtty9/ZX3D95CE01S-AR-4848.pdf?dl=0)

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [20 September 2023 01:24 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/18 "2023-09-20T01:24:37Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/8/3/8375a7780a811b45c4f98aec0678662990773b70.png)

Spending far too much time playing around with styles 😉

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**Author:** ![craigcurtin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/94ad74/32.png) [@craigcurtin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/craigcurtin)\
**Post date:** [20 September 2023 01:34 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/19 "2023-09-20T01:34:38Z")

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So whats the initial Verdict ? Worth the money and easy enough to come to grips with ?

Craig

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [20 September 2023 01:42 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/new-shelly-wall-display-and-alternatives/80961/20 "2023-09-20T01:42:20Z")

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Well I think its a bargain at around £35, given that a fancy regular wall switch can cost quite a lot, and its very hard to find momentary versions.

I was going to have a go at building something myself, but by the time you find a nice touch screen, ESP32, PSU, etc not to mention a WAF enclosure that you could squeeze it all into, then it would have cost me just as much if not more.

The code is easy enough to figure out, those buttons are defined with this code (a lot of extra stuff for the styling, is not needed to make it work)

```auto

{"page":1,"comment":"----------- page 1 ------- "}
{"id":1,"obj":"btn","x":20,"y":250,"w":120,"h":160,"radius":15,"border_opa":255, "outline_width":3, "outline_pad":5, "outline_opa":0, "outline_color":"#E6523A","shadow_spread":15, "shadow_width":8, "shadow_color":"#E6523A", "shadow_opa":0, "text":" \uE91C\nWall","text_font":46,"text_color":"#FFFFFF"}
{"id":2,"obj":"btn","x":180,"y":250,"w":120,"h":160,"radius":15,"border_opa":255, "outline_width":3, "outline_pad":5, "outline_opa":0, "outline_color":"#E6523A","shadow_spread":15, "shadow_width":8, "shadow_color":"#E6523A", "shadow_opa":0, "text":" \uF1E1\nMain","text_font":46,"text_color":"#FFFFFF"}
{"id":3,"obj":"btn","x":340,"y":250,"w":120,"h":160,"radius":15,"border_opa":255, "outline_width":3, "outline_pad":5, "outline_opa":0, "outline_color":"#E6523A","shadow_spread":15, "shadow_width":8, "shadow_color":"#E6523A", "shadow_opa":0, "text":" \uE6B5\nDining","text_font":46,"text_color":"#FFFFFF"}

```

Put it this way I have more on order 😉

PS I'm not affiliated with the manufacturer 🤣 🤣 🤣

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