# Next problem I have with new machine. (Dashboards)

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042>\
**Category:** Dashboard\
**Created:** [13 May 2025 03:38 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042 "2025-05-13T03:38:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trying\_to\_learn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/trying_to_learn/32/28400_2.png) [@Trying\_to\_learn](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Trying_to_learn)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 03:38 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/1 "2025-05-13T03:38:15Z")

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Ok, there is a way I can see, but it will be painful.

I ~~had~~ have a machine and it was running.... _Stretch_ and an early version of NR.  
I wanted to install a new bit of code, but time bit me in the bottom and I couldn't.

So I rebuilt the machine, ground up.  
and now I have NR 4.0.9 and Dashboard 2.x installed.

That ain't gonna work with the old flow/s and the OLD dashboard nodes.

# Options?

Ok, I could install the older dashboard, import the flows then _migrate_ the nodes to the newer ones.

Is there an _Easier way_?

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 12:12 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/2 "2025-05-13T12:12:51Z")

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> [@Trying\_to\_learn](#):
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> Is there an _Easier way_?

I don't believe so. Install D1 since it runs in parallel anyway. Then take your time to migrate to something newer - maybe even avoid future similar issues by migrating to UIBUILDER 🤣

Either way, you can take your time. I doubt D1 will disappear any time soon.

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**Author:** ![Trying\_to\_learn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/trying_to_learn/32/28400_2.png) [@Trying\_to\_learn](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Trying_to_learn)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 12:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/3 "2025-05-13T12:17:56Z")

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Thanks.

It is just I have been through the fun of having to reflash the SD card from Stretch to Bookworm.  
(Couldn't upgrade.) Tried and it failed.

So I got a _BRAND NEW_ version of Bookworm and then installed the latest NR.

And so while I was at it, decided to install the new DB.

I may - as you said - install the old one too and go through migrating it to the newer one node by node.

(on a side trip, look at my up/down load speed thread and the new flow I posted there.)  
I need some help with the layout.  
(Sorry)

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 12:20 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/4 "2025-05-13T12:20:37Z")

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> [@Trying\_to\_learn](#):
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> So I got a _BRAND NEW_ version of Bookworm and then installed the latest NR.

Honestly, I prefer to reinstall from scratch when I can. It tends to end up with a much cleaner installation and fewer issues. I see this as an advantage of using small, cheap(ish) devices, harder to do on a full server unless you have a spare.

> [@Trying\_to\_learn](#):
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> (on a side trip, look at my up/down load speed thread and the new flow I posted there.)  
> I need some help with the layout.  
> (Sorry)

Can't help there. I don't use D2.

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**Author:** ![Trying\_to\_learn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/trying_to_learn/32/28400_2.png) [@Trying\_to\_learn](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Trying_to_learn)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 12:21 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/5 "2025-05-13T12:21:55Z")

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> [@TotallyInformation](#):
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> Can't help there. I don't use D2.

Oops. Yeah, you use ~~docker~~ uibuilder. I forgot.

(Thanks @jbudd )

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 12:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/6 "2025-05-13T12:53:00Z")

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I think @TotallyInformation uses UIBuilder rather than dashboard 2 doesn't he? 🤣

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 13:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/7 "2025-05-13T13:41:59Z")

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> [@jbudd](#):
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> I think @TotallyInformation uses UIBuilder

Yes, I think he might have mentioned that " **once or twice"**  
🤣

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**Post date:** [13 May 2025 14:05 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/8 "2025-05-13T14:05:49Z")

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Well someone has to remind people that there are alternatives! 🙂

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**Author:** ![gerry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/gerry/32/21604_2.png) [@gerry](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gerry)\
**Post date:** [13 May 2025 19:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/9 "2025-05-13T19:00:16Z")

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I feel your pain moving to DB2. It took me months to get everything over and much gnashing of teeth but you really haven't got any alternative as sooner or later you will have to do it. One more update due to deprecating code. My thoughts are to do it sooner than later and fortunately there are several here who are willing to help if you get stuck in a corner.

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**Post date:** [13 May 2025 21:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/10 "2025-05-13T21:03:11Z")

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> [@gerry](#):
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> but you really haven't got any alternative as sooner or later you will have to do it.

You DO have an alternative. It does get rather frustrating to have to keep saying it.

> [@gerry](#):
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> One more update due to deprecating code

One of the whole design criteria behind UIBUILDER is to be able to avoid lock-in to front-end frameworks.

D1 and D2 are great for getting going quickly but, as with any framework, they lock you in to the specific framework (and possibly to a specific framework version).

With UIBUILDER, you are using enhancements to vanilla HTML/CSS and not using a framework. Or, if you prefer, you can lock yourself into ANY framework. 😉

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**Post date:** [13 May 2025 21:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/11 "2025-05-13T21:17:42Z")

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Even if he moves to uibuilder, he's still moving.

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**Post date:** [13 May 2025 21:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/12 "2025-05-13T21:40:12Z")

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> [@gerry](#):
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> Even if he moves to uibuilder, he's still moving

Yes, of course, but is investing in the long-term future.

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**Post date:** [12 June 2025 21:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/next-problem-i-have-with-new-machine-dashboards/97042/13 "2025-06-12T21:40:42Z")

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