# Node red stopped on IBM cloud

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [13 December 2020 06:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437 "2020-12-13T06:54:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![mako](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mako](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/mako)\
**Post date:** [13 December 2020 06:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/1 "2020-12-13T06:54:59Z")

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Hi.

I have some HTTP nodes setup on bluemix nodeRED to forward some basic messages to a MQTT broker.  
Today i noticed that the messages had stopped on December the 10th. i went to my bluemix account and node red was stopped. i restarted it and hope things will start to work again.

The logs didn't go back more than 1 day so i cannot discover why it was stopped.  
Is it meant to keep running continuously or is it meant to stop. im on the free plan BTW.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![mkne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/mkne/32/34037_2.png) [@mkne](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/mkne)\
**Post date:** [22 December 2020 22:06 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/2 "2020-12-22T22:06:55Z")

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Hi mako,

I had the same problem with an instance using MQTT and thought it has something to do with to many MQTT messages. But 10 days ago I setup a new Node-Red App instance and today I discovered that it stopped running and the flow only had one http Request running once per day and a node-red-dashboard. I'm also using the Lite plan as a student and my memory limit is set to 256 MB which should prevent exceeding the free limit. Have you found a reason for the stops?

-Marc

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**Author:** ![JPOLgit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/jpolgit/32/35735_2.png) [@JPOLgit](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/JPOLgit)\
**Post date:** [21 January 2021 20:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/3 "2021-01-21T20:40:54Z")

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Exactly the same issue for me and which I have been trying to understand for some months now.

Node-red on IMBcloud 'lite' stops every 10 days... very frustrating indeed:

started Node RED GDKZK 2020-11-27 app  
Jan 21, 2021, 08:33:21 PM |

stopped Node RED GDKZK 2020-11-27 app  
Jan 21, 2021, 07:15:05 PM |

started Node RED GDKZK 2020-11-27 app  
Jan 11, 2021, 06:41:30 PM |

stopped Node RED GDKZK 2020-11-27 app  
Jan 11, 2021, 01:15:08 PM |

started Node RED GDKZK 2020-11-27 app  
Jan 1, 2021, 12:52:19 PM |

stopped Node RED GDKZK 2020-11-27 app  
Jan 1, 2021, 12:15:02 PM |

Can anyone shed any light?

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**Author:** ![JPOLgit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/jpolgit/32/35735_2.png) [@JPOLgit](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/JPOLgit)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 19:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/4 "2021-02-03T19:36:58Z")

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Just keeping this topic alive and hoping for a reply from someone!

@knolleary - sorry to @ you directly here but I'd very much like to properly understand this issue...

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 19:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/5 "2021-02-03T19:46:10Z")

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Hi @JPOLgit

I don't know is the honest answer.

You'd need to look at the full application log to see if its something in the app causing the stoppage - such as running out of memory - or if its the platform stopping the app.

I vaguely remember some restrictions in place for lite account apps that have no developer activity on them - although I can't find any docs on that front. I have asked internally to see if anyone can shed any light on it.

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**Author:** ![JPOLgit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/jpolgit/32/35735_2.png) [@JPOLgit](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/JPOLgit)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 20:07 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/6 "2021-02-03T20:07:31Z")

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Many thanks for fast reply @knolleary.  
I'll get the logs and post here ASAP.  
I'm tinkering with it pretty much on a daily basis so I don't think it relates to absence of developer activity.  
OK - I'll post the logs and look forward to any info you get internally.  
Sincere thanks again, KRs

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 20:16 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/7 "2021-02-03T20:16:41Z")

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Hi @JPOLgit

I've found the docs that detail the limitations of the lite account: [IBM Cloud Docs](https://cloud.ibm.com/docs/account?topic=account-accounts#lite-account-features)

> - After 10 days of no development activity, your apps go to sleep. You can wake up your apps by continuing to work on them.
> - After 30 days of no development activity, your service instances with Lite plans are deleted.

The important distinction here is that using Node-RED and hitting Deploy is invisible to the platform - it doesn't know anything about Node-RED, so that doesn't count as "development activity".

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**Author:** ![JPOLgit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/jpolgit/32/35735_2.png) [@JPOLgit](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/JPOLgit)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 20:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/8 "2021-02-03T20:46:40Z")

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Thanks again @knolleary  
Clear as can be there on that IBM Cloud link - but I hadn't quite twigged that deploying didn't 'count' so to speak... but understand now and it makes sense.  
Time to upgrade to PAYG!  
Completely love Node-RED so huge thanks for this incredible tool.

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 21:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/9 "2021-02-03T21:22:07Z")

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@JPOLgit just be careful with the PAYG upgrade as some of what you get free with the Lite account is no longer free with PAYG.

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**Author:** ![JPOLgit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/jpolgit/32/35735_2.png) [@JPOLgit](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/JPOLgit)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 21:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/10 "2021-02-03T21:30:44Z")

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@knolleary

Thanks for the steer - have upgraded now to PAYG - will check it out carefully over the first month and proceed with caution from there.

Some form of fixed-cost, capped-data-usage, 'Node-RED only' cloud platform would be super-cool for the hobbyist IoT community...

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 21:31 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-stopped-on-ibm-cloud/37437/11 "2021-04-04T21:31:31Z")

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