# Node Red v1.0.6 start up oddity

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [24 April 2020 16:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431 "2020-04-24T16:04:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![StrongTown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StrongTown](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/StrongTown)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/1 "2020-04-24T16:04:52Z")

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Quick note about the server IP address stated on start up. Incorrect on my set-up.

> # Welcome to Node-RED
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> 24 Apr 11:56:41 - [info] Node-RED version: v1.0.6  
> 24 Apr 11:56:41 - [info] Node.js version: v12.16.2  
> 24 Apr 11:56:41 - [info] Linux 4.19.66-v7+ arm LE  
> 24 Apr 11:56:43 - [info] Loading palette nodes  
> 24 Apr 11:56:54 - [info] Dashboard version 2.20.0 started at /ui  
> 24 Apr 11:56:55 - [info] Settings file : /home/pi/.node-red/settings.js  
> 24 Apr 11:56:55 - [info] HTTP Static : /home/pi/Amicus/Images  
> 24 Apr 11:56:55 - [info] Context store : 'default' [module=localfilesystem]  
> 24 Apr 11:56:55 - [info] User directory : /home/pi/.node-red  
> 24 Apr 11:56:55 - [warn] Projects disabled : set editorTheme.projects.enabled=true to enable  
> 24 Apr 11:56:55 - [info] Flows file : /home/pi/.node-red/flows\_Amicus.json  
> 24 Apr 11:56:55 - [info] Server now running at **[http://127.0.0.1:1880/](http://127.0.0.1:1880/)**  
> 24 Apr 11:56:56 - [info] \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/2 "2020-04-24T16:22:21Z")

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What is incorrect?

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**Author:** ![StrongTown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StrongTown](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/StrongTown)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:24 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/3 "2020-04-24T16:24:11Z")

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No such IP address in my network. In my case it should be **192.168.2.155:1880**

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:27 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/4 "2020-04-24T16:27:30Z")

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> [@StrongTown](#):
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> [http://127.0.0.1:1880/](http://127.0.0.1:1880/)

If you run a browser on the machine running node red and put that in as the url it should work. That is the same as `http://localhost:1880`. It is not telling you how to access it remotely, it is telling you the address the server is bound to.

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**Author:** ![StrongTown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StrongTown](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/StrongTown)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:32 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/5 "2020-04-24T16:32:21Z")

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Of course `http://localhost:1880` will work. The IP address stated will not!

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:35 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/6 "2020-04-24T16:35:32Z")

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Have you tried? Running on the machine running node red? It works for me.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/7 "2020-04-24T16:37:25Z")

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> [@StrongTown](#):
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> The IP address stated will not!

See [What Is the 127.0.0.1 IP Address?](https://www.lifewire.com/network-computer-special-ip-address-818385)

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**Author:** ![zenofmud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/zenofmud/32/316_2.png) [@zenofmud](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/zenofmud)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/8 "2020-04-24T16:37:34Z")

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127.0.0.1 is the local loopback address for every device, This address has been shown the same in every release as far back as I can remember. Just try it. In your browser (running on the same machine that Node-RED is running) enter `http://127.0.0.1:1880` and see what happens.

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**Author:** ![StrongTown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StrongTown](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/StrongTown)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 16:49 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/9 "2020-04-24T16:49:34Z")

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Ok. Didn't know that. My device is remote, not accessed directly, only via IP, which makes that of no value for me. Pretty sure I used to see the proper Dashboard IP address (using the LAN IP) on start up, maybe never noticed that "local loopback" one.

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 17:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/10 "2020-04-24T17:10:23Z")

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Depends how you start node-red. If you use the node-red-start command, the service wrapper will show you an external address

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 19:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/11 "2020-04-24T19:48:07Z")

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> [@dceejay](#):
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> If you use the node-red-start command, the service wrapper will show you an external address

Not for me (on Ubuntu, installed via Pi script, so running under systemd).

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 19:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/12 "2020-04-24T19:51:00Z")

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As you are wont to say. Show me the log !

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 20:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/13 "2020-04-24T20:03:45Z")

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> [@dceejay](#):
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> Show me the log !

I assumed you would just believe me 🙂

```auto
 $ node-red-start

Start Node-RED
 
Once Node-RED has started, point a browser at http://192.168.49.92:1880
On Pi Node-RED works better with the Firefox or Chrome browser
 
Use node-red-stop to stop Node-RED
Use node-red-start to start Node-RED again
Use node-red-log to view the recent log output
Use sudo systemctl enable nodered.service to autostart Node-RED at every boot
Use sudo systemctl disable nodered.service to disable autostart on boot
 
To find more nodes and example flows - go to http://flows.nodered.org
 
Starting as a systemd service.
24 Apr 20:47:01 - [info]
Welcome to Node-RED
===================
24 Apr 20:47:01 - [info] Node-RED version: v1.0.4
24 Apr 20:47:01 - [info] Node.js version: v12.16.2
24 Apr 20:47:01 - [info] Linux 5.3.0-46-generic x64 LE
24 Apr 20:47:02 - [info] Loading palette nodes
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Dashboard version 2.20.1-beta started at /ui
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Settings file : /home/me/.node-red/settings.js
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] HTTP Static : /home/me/.node-red/static
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Context store : 'memoryOnly' [module=memory]
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Context store : 'file' [module=localfilesystem]
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] User directory : /home/me/.node-red
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [warn] Projects disabled : editorTheme.projects.enabled=false
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Flows file : /home/me/.node-red/flows_tigger.json
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Server now running at http://127.0.0.1:1880/
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Starting flows
24 Apr 20:47:03 - [info] Started flows

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Ah, just noticed the extra line at the top. I thought you meant it changed the server line.  
Ooops, sorry.

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**Author:** ![StrongTown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StrongTown](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/StrongTown)\
**Post date:** [24 April 2020 21:11 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/14 "2020-04-24T21:11:42Z")

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Maybe I can ask you an off topic Q here. I have 4 unassigned groups in Dashboard I cannot find to delete. They appear in all ui items (drop downs, as [unassigned] ) but not in the right hand sidebar so I can't manage them (out). Also, there is a little note under the Dashboard layout dialogue box suggesting I "click here" to get rid of unassigned groups but clicking it doesn't do anything.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [23 June 2020 21:11 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-v1-0-6-start-up-oddity/25431/15 "2020-06-23T21:11:42Z")

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