# Node-red version 16.0.0 lost all flows

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-version-16-0-0-lost-all-flows/82878>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [15 November 2023 11:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-version-16-0-0-lost-all-flows/82878 "2023-11-15T11:33:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![kerontide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kerontide](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/kerontide)\
**Post date:** [15 November 2023 11:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-version-16-0-0-lost-all-flows/82878/1 "2023-11-15T11:33:55Z")

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Hello, good morning,

I just update to the nodered version 16.0.0 and I lost all flows, all is empty, do you know how an update can remove all flows?

is any way to recover it?

thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [15 November 2023 11:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-version-16-0-0-lost-all-flows/82878/2 "2023-11-15T11:47:40Z")

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Hello @kerontide, welcome to the forum.

There is no such thing as Node-red version 16.0.0, the current version is 3.1.0.  
Perhaps you have Node-red installed in/with Home Assistant? If so I can't advise you.

If you just have Node-red, go to your `.node-red` folder and look for files named **_something_.json**

I think at one time the default name for the flows file was **flows\__hostname_.json** but now I think it is **flows.json** (there is also a **flows\__hostname_\_cred.json** (?) or **flows\_cred.json** )  
If you have the older version you can just rename these two files. (make a backup first!)

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**Author:** ![kerontide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kerontide](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/kerontide)\
**Post date:** [15 November 2023 11:55 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-version-16-0-0-lost-all-flows/82878/3 "2023-11-15T11:55:34Z")

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thanks a lot!!! yes you are right I have node-red under HA.

Thanks a lot it helps me and sorry about the inconveniences.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [14 January 2024 11:56 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-version-16-0-0-lost-all-flows/82878/4 "2024-01-14T11:56:23Z")

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