# \[off-topic\]Paid for MQTT Broker

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**Created:** [3 May 2020 22:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025 "2020-05-03T22:04:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![cymplecy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/cymplecy/32/2773_2.png) [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2020 22:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/1 "2020-05-03T22:04:06Z")

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I've decided that securing my own cloud MQTT broker is not worth the struggle/too difficult for me so looking to put the money towards using a commercial one instead and wondering if anyone uses one themselves?

Ideally, looking for something that lets me have totally private topics but ideally public read only ones as well  
[edit]I mean ones I can read-write to 🙂 and others can read only from 🙂 [/edit]

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**Author:** ![LosinIt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@LosinIt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/LosinIt)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2020 22:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/2 "2020-05-03T22:43:20Z")

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I don't know if this meets all your requirements but here's what I do. I run NR and a Mosquitto broker on my internal net(s) and block them from reaching the Internet. I also setup OpenVPN so I can get a virtual presence "inside" my system from anywhere.

HTH

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**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\
**Post date:** [3 May 2020 23:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/3 "2020-05-03T23:00:56Z")

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Well, I'm not really an expert but the times I've looked at such things, the cost of a cloud service that would serve MQTT securely was a lot more than, lets say, running your own VPS.

I think that both Azure and AWS have MQTT compatible services Microsoft will give you some free developer services on Azure, I think that AWS is only free for 1yr. I know that IBM cloud also has MQTT but I don't know whether the free tier includes secure MQTT. I expect that Oracle cloud has something as well. Not sure about other options.

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**Author:** ![LosinIt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@LosinIt](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/LosinIt)\
**Post date:** [4 May 2020 00:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/4 "2020-05-04T00:41:11Z")

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I am a stickler about keeping everything local. 😉 Cloud is just a word for someone else's computer.

Setting up the Mosquitto broker was very easy. The VPN was tricky for me because my head gets into a tornado whenever crypto is mentioned. But it was a good exercise in turning the tornado into just a gustnado so that was good in the end.

Good luck

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**Author:** ![krambriw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/krambriw/32/5429_2.png) [@krambriw](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/krambriw)\
**Post date:** [4 May 2020 05:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/5 "2020-05-04T05:22:25Z")

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@cymplecy  
Maybe one of these:

CloudMQTT: a Swedish based company providing such services  
[https://www.cloudmqtt.com/](https://www.cloudmqtt.com/)

> **[DevOps as a Service](https://www.84codes.com/)**
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> We automate server configurations and maintenance so developers can focus on what they do best: build applications.

Beebotte: a US company basically doing the same  
[https://beebotte.com/home](https://beebotte.com/home)

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**Post date:** [4 May 2020 14:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/6 "2020-05-04T14:44:52Z")

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Ah, I was trying to remember the name of Beebotte, I even have an account with them. Created in 2015.

84codes is a good call though. Be interesting to try their [cloudmqtt.com](http://cloudmqtt.com) service. Sadly they don't have any free accounts available right now but do have a USD5 per month service which is easier to bear than the minimum $10 pm from Beebotte though of course they have the free service for up to 1.5m msgs per month (in+out).

Having taken a quick look at 84codes FAQ, I'm actually quite impressed by their approach to things including security and privacy. Helps being in a European country I think.

I also like that for both of these services, you aren't having to wrangle with the arcane costs associated with a global Cloud provider like Azure or AWS. With extra costs for data transmission, storage as well as the base service. Makes life a lot easier.

Of course, for $5-10 per month, you could get a basic VPS - even a KVM one (required to run Docker if that's what you want) though you will have to shop around for a KVM based VPS at that price. Mosquitto requires hardly any resources to run well.

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**Post date:** [4 May 2020 16:01 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/7 "2020-05-04T16:01:15Z")

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I used a free [cloudmqtt.com](http://cloudmqtt.com) service for a while and really liked it so moved to a paid plan. The strange thing was that I could not upgrade to a paid plan from the website as there was a "region" issue. They suggested a pain plan on Heroku, so that is what I did a few years ago. Works great.  
I have also recently setup an MQTT broker from [https://www.emqx.io/](https://www.emqx.io/) on Google Cloud and this is also an option. The EMQX broker has a useful UI

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [4 May 2020 18:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/8 "2020-05-04T18:02:26Z")

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I use emqx at work. Has amazing features.

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**Post date:** [4 May 2020 19:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/9 "2020-05-04T19:00:09Z")

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I used [cloudmqtt](https://www.cloudmqtt.com/) on the free 'Cute Cat' plan, and have it now as a backup service in case my self hosted Mosquitto server lets me down.

I found it extremely reliable, and the free tier is very generous as the only cap is;

- 5 connections per server
- Data transfer rate \<10kb/s

The least expensive plan currently available is $5 per month, and for that you get;

- 25 connections per server
- Data transfer rate \<20kb/s

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**Author:** ![cymplecy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/cymplecy/32/2773_2.png) [@cymplecy](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/cymplecy)\
**Post date:** [18 May 2020 19:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/off-topic-paid-for-mqtt-broker/26025/10 "2020-05-18T19:00:12Z")

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