# Orphaned ui groups

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268>\
**Category:** Dashboard\
**Created:** [21 April 2020 21:27 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268 "2020-04-21T21:27:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2020 21:27 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268/1 "2020-04-21T21:27:26Z")

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Just looking through my ui groups in the config tab (because I'm bored!), and found a number of ui groups with unassigned tabs.

![unassigned](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/2/d/2da2832d39c8fb33dc7dd1ee2be914efeef2480d.jpeg)

Checking the contents I see that the only node in the group is a spacer node

![details](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/7/1/71c89954f6b4771a3e7f472b47a9146ebc76501b.jpeg)

I realise that I can just delete these off, but don't know why they have been left??

Also.. whilst in the config tab, I've got lots of spacer nodes listed -

![spacer](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/b/4/b4c9ddc2240c99ffed1fd41db8f61621049bb09a.jpeg)

but clicking them to open their properties, and they do not seem assigned to a tab/group ??

![properties](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/c/9/c940f772dc4f95d97eb874d0e266c7fa9605ad7d.jpeg)

Is this normal?

Node-RED version: v1.0.5  
Dashboard: v2.21.0  
Node.js version: v10.20.0  
Linux 4.14.35-1902.300.11.el7uek.x86\_64 x64 LE

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2020 21:59 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268/2 "2020-04-21T21:59:18Z")

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maybe - we don't delete them for you, so if they get left they will remain.

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2020 22:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268/3 "2020-04-21T22:08:03Z")

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If spacer nodes are system created, shouldn't the system also remove them when they clearly serve no purpose?

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2020 23:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268/4 "2020-04-21T23:02:24Z")

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Depends.. If you use the layout tool they are. If you rearrange manually they arent

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2020 23:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268/5 "2020-04-21T23:30:30Z")

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Despite being a relatively new installation, I seem to be acquiring a lot of dashboard unused items..  
another example is that I see this info warning;

![clutter](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/2/6/26170b05a1ee48c93568cda6d29409ddc0e10b77.gif)

I click on it, and see that a Deploy is offered. If I deploy, then I still get the '1 widget not in a group' info warning.  
The deploy appears to do nothing, and I go around in a circle.

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [21 May 2020 23:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/orphaned-ui-groups/25268/6 "2020-05-21T23:30:33Z")

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