# Pi bookworm experience

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [27 October 2023 21:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414 "2023-10-27T21:47:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![gerry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/gerry/32/21604_2.png) [@gerry](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gerry)\
**Post date:** [27 October 2023 21:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/1 "2023-10-27T21:47:15Z")

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Anyone running the new pi bookworm OS with node red yet? Observations?

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**Author:** ![marcus-j-davies](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/marcus-j-davies/32/103435_2.png) [@marcus-j-davies](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/marcus-j-davies)\
**Post date:** [28 October 2023 16:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/2 "2023-10-28T16:50:08Z")

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I'm looking to do a rebuild this weekend/week, so if no one else coughs up, ill update.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [28 October 2023 17:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/3 "2023-10-28T17:02:54Z")

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Do it on a spare SD card so you are not burning any bridges.

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**Author:** ![marcus-j-davies](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/marcus-j-davies/32/103435_2.png) [@marcus-j-davies](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/marcus-j-davies)\
**Post date:** [28 October 2023 17:06 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/4 "2023-10-28T17:06:12Z")

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For sure!  
I have a few 32gb cards around the house, so don't mind cooking a few in the process! 😬

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**Author:** ![krambriw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/krambriw/32/5429_2.png) [@krambriw](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/krambriw)\
**Post date:** [29 October 2023 16:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/5 "2023-10-29T16:19:02Z")

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Only annoying thing I recognized, I could not use my existing real-vnc client to connect so I reverted back to previous raspbian (you can find a lot of issues about this)

All my pi's are distributed around the house and run without keyboard, mouse and monitor and this is nothing I'm gonna change

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**Author:** ![Frida](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/frida/32/68250_2.png) [@Frida](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Frida)\
**Post date:** [29 October 2023 19:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/6 "2023-10-29T19:33:23Z")

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The new Bookworm runs fine on my PIZW2, with node-red, zigbee2mqtt, ssh and vnc.

If I take the sd card from a PIZ and move to PI4, vnc does not work.

If I moved it back on PIZ, and enable vnc, it works again.

On PI4 this error occurs:

```auto
<Warning: ../src/ctl-server.c: 703: Deleting stale control socket path "/run/user/1000/wayvncctl"

```

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [29 October 2023 21:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/7 "2023-10-29T21:43:40Z")

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> [@krambriw](#):
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> I could not use my existing real-vnc client to connect

Use ssh to manage the pi's rather than vnc.

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**Author:** ![gerry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/gerry/32/21604_2.png) [@gerry](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gerry)\
**Post date:** [5 November 2023 01:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/9 "2023-11-05T01:25:52Z")

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While on the pi5 do you use any pins? Output or input? I'm hearing there's a few gremlins in there.

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**Author:** ![Sean-McG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/sean-mcg/32/54677_2.png) [@Sean-McG](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Sean-McG)\
**Post date:** [5 November 2023 03:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/10 "2023-11-05T03:03:36Z")

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@krambriw Quote from

> **[Raspberry Pi 5 Compatible OS 'Bookworm' Officially Released](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-5-compatible-os-bookworm-officially-released)**
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> The OS you need for the Raspberry Pi 5

VNC users should note that a new VNC server is being used. Wayvnc replaces RealVNC as the latter does not work with Wayland’s security model. On the client side, Long reports that TigerVNC is providing good results.

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**Author:** ![softy2k](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/softy2k/32/23707_2.png) [@softy2k](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/softy2k)\
**Post date:** [6 November 2023 06:21 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/11 "2023-11-06T06:21:49Z")

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I switched to Bookworm 64bits for a few weeks, everything is OK.  
I don't use VNC.  
I have a project that uses the I2C protocol, it works without problems.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [5 January 2024 06:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/pi-bookworm-experience/82414/12 "2024-01-05T06:22:28Z")

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