# Podman Installation - Permissions Issue
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/podman-installation-permissions-issue/84835
**Category:** General
**Tags:** docker
**Created:** [23 January 2024 14:59 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/podman-installation-permissions-issue/84835 "2024-01-23T14:59:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@luckylinux](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/luckylinux)
#### Post date: [23 January 2024 14:59 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/podman-installation-permissions-issue/84835/1 "2024-01-23T14:59:30Z")
I am trying to install nodered using rootless `Podman` (which _should_ be compatible with Docker) with Bind Mount, but I am running into some permission issues where the converter crashes/exits at startup.
This is my compose.yml
```auto
version: "3.7"
services:
node-red:
container_name: node-red
image: nodered/node-red:latest
environment:
- TZ=Europe/Copenhagen
# ports:
# - "1880:1880"
networks:
- traefik
volumes:
- ~/data/node-red:/data
user: node-red # Tried podman:node-red, podman, ...
labels:
- "traefik.enable=true"
- "traefik.http.routers.node-red.rule=Host(`node-red.MYDOMAIN.TLD`)"
- "traefik.http.services.node-red.loadbalancer.server.port=1880"
- "traefik.docker.network=traefik"
networks:
traefik:
external: true
```
And this is the error I get from `podman logs node-red`
```auto
node:internal/fs/utils:347
throw err;
^
Error: EACCES: permission denied, copyfile '/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/node-red/settings.js' -> '/data/settings.js'
at Object.copyFileSync (node:fs:2847:3)
at copyFile (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:64:6)
at onFile (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:50:25)
at getStats (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:42:44)
at Object.copySync (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:32:10)
at Object. (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/node-red/red.js:129:20)
at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1198:14)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1252:10)
at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1076:32)
at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:911:12) {
errno: -13,
syscall: 'copyfile',
code: 'EACCES',
path: '/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/node-red/settings.js',
dest: '/data/settings.js'
}
node:internal/fs/utils:347
throw err;
^
Error: EACCES: permission denied, copyfile '/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/node-red/settings.js' -> '/data/settings.js'
at Object.copyFileSync (node:fs:2847:3)
at copyFile (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:64:6)
at onFile (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:50:25)
at getStats (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:42:44)
at Object.copySync (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/fs-extra/lib/copy/copy-sync.js:32:10)
at Object. (/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/node-red/red.js:129:20)
at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1198:14)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1252:10)
at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1076:32)
at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:911:12) {
errno: -13,
syscall: 'copyfile',
code: 'EACCES',
path: '/usr/src/node-red/node_modules/node-red/settings.js',
dest: '/data/settings.js'
}
```
I read [Running under Docker : Node-RED](https://nodered.org/docs/getting-started/docker#using-a-host-directory-for-persistence-bind-mount), but I still cannot understand what's so "special" about node-red that causes so many permissions issues with Bind Mounts. I am running several containers and either they run as "podman" (my Podman user) or a subuid/subgid of it configured in /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid.
What is so different that the nodered container cannot handle this kind of permissions for Bind mounts ?
---
### Author:  [@luckylinux](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/luckylinux)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 19:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/podman-installation-permissions-issue/84835/2 "2024-01-25T19:10:06Z")
I tried to run `whoami` inside various containers ...
For instance
```auto
podman exec -it homeassistant /bin/sh
whoami
root
```
Apparently every other container seems to be running as root.
Looking at node-red Dockerfile, after the initial installation, it seems it's run as user `node-red`.
That's probably the cause of the different behavior.
---
### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [24 April 2024 19:10 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/podman-installation-permissions-issue/84835/3 "2024-04-24T19:10:06Z")
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