# Raspberry pi outdated software **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [29 November 2022 15:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458 "2022-11-29T15:02:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2

**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\ **Post date:** [30 November 2022 12:35 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/22 "2022-11-30T12:35:13Z")

> [@henkkas](#): > > --depth=0 That's the default, you don't need it. ---

**Author:** ![henkkas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/henkkas/32/39844_2.png) [@henkkas](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/henkkas)\ **Post date:** [30 November 2022 12:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/23 "2022-11-30T12:54:26Z")

@TotallyInformation OK 👌 ---

**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\ **Post date:** [30 November 2022 17:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/24 "2022-11-30T17:54:00Z")

and for humans it's easier to read without the `--json` 🙂 As I said sometimes it will only upgrade to a level it is allowed to safely by the semantic versioning - that is the wanted level. There may be a version it knows about but won't upgrade to unless you force it - that is the latest version... they may of course all be the same. ---

**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\ **Post date:** [30 November 2022 19:49 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/25 "2022-11-30T19:49:44Z")

> [@dceejay](#): > > and for humans it's easier to read without the `--json` Yes, but easier to process in Node-RED with it 😉 So depends what you want t o > [@henkkas](#): > > Is there a way to detect if there is a new node red dashboard version. That was the reason for returning json as I was recommending using a node-red flow to send a notification when an update is available. 🕶 ---

**Author:** ![henkkas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/henkkas/32/39844_2.png) [@henkkas](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/henkkas)\ **Post date:** [1 December 2022 13:59 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/26 "2022-12-01T13:59:14Z")

@dceejay @TotallyInformation I must say @TotallyInformation , he is right. I need to process that data, so the option --json is very welcome.🙂 ---

**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\ **Post date:** [1 December 2022 14:18 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/27 "2022-12-01T14:18:17Z")

no problem - I thought you had gone away from just updating dashboard to the more general how do I see all the things that can be updated - which is a lot easier to do manually imho.. but hey. ---

**Author:** ![henkkas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/henkkas/32/39844_2.png) [@henkkas](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/henkkas)\ **Post date:** [1 December 2022 14:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/28 "2022-12-01T14:19:24Z")

@dceejay 👌 ---

**Author:** ![drmibell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/drmibell/32/8424_2.png) [@drmibell](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/drmibell)\ **Post date:** [4 December 2022 18:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/29 "2022-12-04T18:50:11Z")

Just slightly off-topic, but I can't remember the last time I've run `npm outdated`. Is that going overboard with "if it ain't broke..."? When is it a good idea? ---

**Author:** ![TotallyInformation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/totallyinformation/32/31_2.png) [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)\ **Post date:** [4 December 2022 20:14 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/30 "2022-12-04T20:14:38Z")

Well, I run it maybe once a month or so along with `npm -g outdated`. I find it easier than going through the built-in palette manager. I do a general `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade` at the same time. Personally, I find it easier to keep things reasonably up-to-date than suddenly finding I have loads of updates to wade through at one time. Of course, having rock-solid backups helps as well since it makes recovery easy should something go awry. ---

**Author:** ![drmibell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/drmibell/32/8424_2.png) [@drmibell](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/drmibell)\ **Post date:** [4 December 2022 21:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/31 "2022-12-04T21:09:16Z")

> [@TotallyInformation](#): > > easier than going through the built-in palette manager Got it. If we're just talking about NR nodes, I'll stick to the palette manager. Updating everything in on the Pi has been a bumpy road at times. ---

**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [18 December 2022 21:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/raspberry-pi-outdated-software/71458/32 "2022-12-18T21:09:18Z")

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