# Restarting in middle of night and multiple failures to deploy
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955
**Category:** General
**Created:** [26 August 2022 09:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955 "2022-08-26T09:39:37Z")
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 09:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/1 "2022-08-26T09:39:37Z")
Node-Red is running my home automation. I have had no major issues until recently updating to v3.0.2. I'm not sure if my issue is related to this update or not.
In the middle of the night node-red seems to restart and activates things in the house.
I also now get several "Deploy failed: no response from server" messages when deploying. If I attempt deploy 3-4 times in a row, it will go through. I'm not sure if both issues are related.
Checking apport.log shows me the following.
ERROR: apport (pid 244021) Fri Aug 26 02:43:34 2022: called for pid 174718, signal 6, core limit 0, dump mode 1
ERROR: apport (pid 244021) Fri Aug 26 02:43:34 2022: executable: /usr/local/bin/node (command line "node-red")
ERROR: apport (pid 244021) Fri Aug 26 02:43:34 2022: executable does not belong to a package, ignoring
All help is appreciated.
Chris
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 09:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/2 "2022-08-26T09:47:10Z")
you need to inspect the node-red logs (syslog) - that should provide some clues.
The "no response" may be due to several factors - e.g. your flows might be causing high CPU, node-red may be crashing more than you realise (hence the no-response) or indeed something else on the server is hogging CPU
The crashing may be related to a bad node or out of memory?
What OS and hardware is this running on?
How did you install node-red (the official script? on docker? as a HA plugin etc etc)?
Again,
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 09:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/3 "2022-08-26T09:53:20Z")
I believe I installed with the official script. Where are the node-red logs?
I am running on Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS.
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:01 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/4 "2022-08-26T10:01:36Z")
> [@ctreischman](#):
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> I believe I installed with the official script
In which case...
`node-red-log`
as documented [here](https://nodered.org/docs/user-guide/runtime/logging)...
> _Note_ : if you are running as a service on the Raspberry Pi using our [install script](https://nodered.org/docs/hardware/raspberrypi), you can use the `node-red-log` command to view the service log.
and [here](https://nodered.org/docs/getting-started/raspberrypi)...
> ### Running as a service
>
> The install script for the Pi also sets it up to run as a service. This means it can run in the background and be enabled to automatically start on boot.
>
> The following commands are provided to work with the service:
>
> - `node-red-start` - this starts the Node-RED service and displays its log output. Pressing `Ctrl-C` or closing the window does _not_ stop the service; it keeps running in the background
> - `node-red-stop` - this stops the Node-RED service
> - `node-red-restart` - this stops and restarts the Node-RED service
> - `node-red-log` - this displays the log output of the service
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### Author:  [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/5 "2022-08-26T10:09:25Z")
Or you can look back through /var/log/syslog, or /var/log/syslog.1 if a new syslog has been started. Another possibility is that the machine rebooted, again you should be able to see that in syslog. Also the command `top` will tell you how long he system has been up.
> [@ctreischman](#):
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> node-red seems to restart and activates things in the house.
Do things get activated if you just restart node-red? If not then do they get re-activated if you reboot (assuming node-red auto runs on boot)?
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:12 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/6 "2022-08-26T10:12:37Z")
Yes. Things activate on boot and deploy. The full computer did not reboot, but something must be crashing just node-red. It is weird that it is usually between 2-4 in the morning.
Do these mean anything?
ERROR: apport (pid 244021) Fri Aug 26 02:43:34 2022: executable: /usr/local/bin/node (command line "node-red")
ERROR: apport (pid 244021) Fri Aug 26 02:43:34 2022: executable does not belong to a package, ignoring
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/7 "2022-08-26T10:17:51Z")
> [@ctreischman](#):
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> Do these mean anything?
Hard to say until we have context (i.e. the node-red logs)
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:27 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/8 "2022-08-26T10:27:34Z")
What should i specifically be looking for? I see this which seems to be the cause: FATAL ERROR: Reached heap limit Allocation failed - JavaScript heap out of memory
Correct?
How do I determine what is using the memory?
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/9 "2022-08-26T10:33:25Z")
> [@ctreischman](#):
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> I see this which seems to be the cause: FATAL ERROR: Reached heap limit Allocation failed - JavaScript heap out of memory
Yes, that will kill node-red.
searching the forum for "Reached heap limit"
> [@High CPU usage & out of memory](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/high-cpu-usage-out-of-memory/49976):
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> Hi, I've got problem where the node-red service have almost 95-100% cpu usage and eventually restart it self. Here's what I've got from syslog: node-red[5886]: (Use `node --trace-deprecation ...` to show where the warning was created) node-red[5886]: 21 Aug 00:26:43 - [info] node-red[5886]: Welcome to Node-RED node-red[5886]: =================== node-red[5886]: 21 Aug 00:26:43 - [info] Node-RED version: v2.0.5 node-red[5886]: 21 Aug 00:26:43 - [info] Node.js version: v16.6.2 node-red[5886]: 21…
searching the forum for "JavaScript heap out of memory"
[https://discourse.nodered.org/search?q=JavaScript%20heap%20out%20of%20memory](https://discourse.nodered.org/search?q=JavaScript%20heap%20out%20of%20memory)
Lots of reasons and lots of discussions, solutions and answers - start there.
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### Author:  [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:42 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/10 "2022-08-26T10:42:27Z")
Show us all the node-red related messages leading up to the failure.
`cat /var/log/syslog |grep -i "node-red"`
might do it
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:47 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/11 "2022-08-26T10:47:35Z")
This keeps repeating itself.
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: Unhandled rejection TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'name')`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at ServerNode.sendChanged (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/node-red-contrib-life/nodes/server.js:55:56)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at /home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/node-red-contrib-life/nodes/server.js:76:26`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at /home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/node-red-contrib-life/nodes/server.js:83:17`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at tryCatcher (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:16:23)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at Promise._settlePromiseFromHandler (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:547:31)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at Promise._settlePromise (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:604:18)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at Promise._settlePromise0 (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:649:10)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at Promise._settlePromises (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:729:18)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at _drainQueueStep (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:93:12)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at _drainQueue (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:86:9)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at Async._drainQueues (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:102:5)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at Immediate.Async.drainQueues [as _onImmediate] (/home/reischman/.node-red/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:15:14)`
`Aug 26 05:41:14 desktop node-red-pi[1365]: at processImmediate (node:internal/timers:466:21)`
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/12 "2022-08-26T10:51:01Z")
> [@ctreischman](#):
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> (/home/reischman/.node-red/node\_modules/node-red-contrib-life/nodes/server.js:55:56)
node-red-contrib-life is most likely buggy and needs fixing. Unfortunately, the author did not put a link to github in his package.
You could try the forked version node-red-contrib-life360
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### Author:  [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/13 "2022-08-26T10:54:49Z")
> [@ctreischman](#):
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> node-red-contrib-life
Since that node has no documentation and has not been updated in years I suggest trying an alternative way of solving your problem.
If you want to try to work round it then look carefully at messages that you are sending it in case they may causing the problem.
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:55 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/14 "2022-08-26T10:55:04Z")
What does "forked version" mean?
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:56 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/15 "2022-08-26T10:56:47Z")
It means someone else duplicated the original node and made it better 🙂
Tagging @hepcat72 (forks author) for reference
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 10:59 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/16 "2022-08-26T10:59:02Z")
Thanks to all 3 of you!
I also see the output-at-startup tick box that was likely driving me nuts also.
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### Author:  [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 11:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/17 "2022-08-26T11:02:34Z")
You might also want to improve the flows so that things do not get activated on a node-red restart. I solve this by using Retained topics in MQTT to keep all my system state information (which lights are on, temperature setpoints and so on). Then when node-red restarts it automatically gets given the previous state so there is minimum change on a reboot. Another way is to use persistent context to keep the state, and then have a flow that is run on startup that picks that up and does whatever is necessary to initialise node-red so it is in sync with the real world. I find that MQTT is the more convenient way though.
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 11:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/18 "2022-08-26T11:08:06Z")
Do you have a "getting started with MQTT" link? I have an idea how it works and that it could probably simplify what I am doing. My flows have gotten massive. I started out programming one way in node-red and stuck with it. Probably nor really the best. I have no programming training so I just mess with things long enough to get them working. Then hope they never stop working. I suspect that everything I have going is sub-optimal.
-Chris
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### Author:  [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 11:09 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/19 "2022-08-26T11:09:56Z")
This will tell you pretty much all you need to know about MQTT. [MQTT Essentials - All Core Concepts explained](https://www.hivemq.com/mqtt-essentials/)
It seems complex, but in fact is very easy to install and use.
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### Author:  [@ctreischman](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/ctreischman)
#### Post date: [26 August 2022 11:18 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/restarting-in-middle-of-night-and-multiple-failures-to-deploy/66955/20 "2022-08-26T11:18:59Z")
Thanks again!
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