# Start node red without loading any flows

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [4 April 2024 11:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005 "2024-04-04T11:53:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Thewaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/thewaver/32/11917_2.png) [@Thewaver](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Thewaver)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 11:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/41 "2024-04-16T11:53:44Z")

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Hi, I did install Bullseye with the pi imager (virgin install) and I choose Bullseye as I am installing it on a Pi Zero 1 and there was no selection available for Bookworm, only Bullseye.

I have finally managed to get it going on the fresh Bullseye install by manually installing Node-Red ( `npm install -g --unsafe-perm node-red`).

My problem now is I cant get the UI working (XX.XX.XX.XX:1880/ui/ !!!! It reports "back cannot GET /ui"

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 11:59 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/42 "2024-04-16T11:59:56Z")

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Ah the original Pi Zero, I have stopped using those. I only use 64 bit devices with wifi, which includes the Zero Two.  
It's been a long time since I used npm install too.  
Can you install the dashboard via Manage Palette?

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**Author:** ![Thewaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/thewaver/32/11917_2.png) [@Thewaver](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Thewaver)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 12:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/43 "2024-04-16T12:04:08Z")

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Hi, Just got the UI going...at last. Should have done this fresh install in the first place to save all that wasted time..

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 12:18 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/44 "2024-04-16T12:18:56Z")

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The fact that it is using such old hardware is probably the cause of your problems. I am not sure that nodesource provide builds for the original Zero any more. When you ran the install script on the new install did you specify a particular version of nodesjs (using --node20 for example) or leave it at the default?

@dceejay are you able to comment on this?

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**Author:** ![Thewaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/thewaver/32/11917_2.png) [@Thewaver](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Thewaver)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 12:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/45 "2024-04-16T12:46:53Z")

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Hi Colin, yes, I added --node20 and its now working...at last  
node V20.11.0  
npm V10.2.4  
Not sure why the zero 1 is not supported as its still generally available to buy??  
Thanks for your help Colin...

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 13:12 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/46 "2024-04-16T13:12:12Z")

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I thought you said that script didn't work and you had to install node-red manually.

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**Author:** ![dceejay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/dceejay/32/38_2.png) [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 15:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/47 "2024-04-16T15:25:00Z")

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The script should still work on arm6 as we use the unofficial builds for that. But yes I need to check where they got to with node20 as it may well get dropped

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2024 19:13 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/48 "2024-04-16T19:13:17Z")

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It now seems that the script did install nodejs 20 OK, so it is not clear at the moment what, if any, problem there was.

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**Author:** ![Thewaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/thewaver/32/11917_2.png) [@Thewaver](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Thewaver)\
**Post date:** [18 April 2024 13:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/49 "2024-04-18T13:02:27Z")

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Ive got node-red working again and I have imported the flows but Im now getting warnings that the nodes are not installed. Is there a way of copying the nodes from the original node red to the new copy of node red. I was thinking of copying the .node-red/node\_modules directory and pasting it over the new node red node\_modules directory ??

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [18 April 2024 13:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/50 "2024-04-18T13:25:13Z")

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> [@Thewaver](#):
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> I was thinking of copying the .node-red/node\_modules directory and pasting it over the new node red node\_modules directory ??

No. Just copy the `package.json` and run `npm install` (all inside `.node-red` directory)

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**Author:** ![Thewaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/thewaver/32/11917_2.png) [@Thewaver](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Thewaver)\
**Post date:** [21 April 2024 09:17 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/51 "2024-04-21T09:17:41Z")

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Hi Steve, Thanks, that did the trick...all back to normal now

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [5 May 2024 09:18 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/start-node-red-without-loading-any-flows/87005/52 "2024-05-05T09:18:01Z")

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