# Thoughts on Bun & Deno as replacement runtime
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/thoughts-on-bun-deno-as-replacement-runtime/91917
**Category:** General
**Created:** [29 September 2024 00:52 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/thoughts-on-bun-deno-as-replacement-runtime/91917 "2024-09-29T00:52:31Z")
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### Author:  [@kansaandre](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/kansaandre)
#### Post date: [29 September 2024 00:52 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/thoughts-on-bun-deno-as-replacement-runtime/91917/1 "2024-09-29T00:52:31Z")
Wondering if you guys have thought about and maybe used Bun or Deno as runtimes for node-red?
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### Author:  [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)
#### Post date: [29 September 2024 06:44 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/thoughts-on-bun-deno-as-replacement-runtime/91917/2 "2024-09-29T06:44:13Z")
See [Node-red on Deno 2 & Bun? Well sort-of](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-on-deno-2-bun-well-sort-of/91304) for an ongoing discussion on this topic.
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### Author:  [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)
#### Post date: [29 September 2024 10:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/thoughts-on-bun-deno-as-replacement-runtime/91917/3 "2024-09-29T10:51:42Z")
As Nick indicates, they are not quite ready yet - but certainly getting close.
What is particularly interesting is how Node.js might continue to act in the face of increasing competition. Either way, we should get some interesting options out of it in the future.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [28 December 2024 10:51 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/thoughts-on-bun-deno-as-replacement-runtime/91917/4 "2024-12-28T10:51:50Z")
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