# Unable to start node-red after upgrade to 1.0.2

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [25 October 2019 10:16 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131 "2019-10-25T10:16:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![hathemi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hathemi/32/3792_2.png) [@hathemi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hathemi)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 10:16 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/1 "2019-10-25T10:16:13Z")

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i have updated node-red to 1.0.2. when i tried to launch it typing node-red in terminal. it wont be launch it!!  
 ![Sans%20titre](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/2X/0/0bbe722b7b193eccd7c6a46716d3783181e70ede.png)

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 10:53 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/2 "2019-10-25T10:53:53Z")

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Does it go straight back to the command prompt after the dashboard message?  
Was it working before you upgraded?  
Exactly how did you upgrade?  
Node 12.x is not currently a recommended version of node.js (should be 8.x or 10.x) but I would be surprised if that were the problem.

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**Author:** ![hathemi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hathemi/32/3792_2.png) [@hathemi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hathemi)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 11:13 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/3 "2019-10-25T11:13:47Z")

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my earlier version was 0.20.5 for node-red and v10 for nodejs  
i used this command to upgrade node-red version

> npm install -g --unsafe-perm node-red

then i installed new version of nodejs.

> [@Colin](#):
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> Does it go straight back to the command prompt after the dashboard message?

yes it does.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 11:41 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/4 "2019-10-25T11:41:43Z")

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After you install a new version of node.js you have to rebuild all the nodes. However since you are now using an unsupported version of nodejs you might be better to change it to 10.x first.

To rebuild all the nodes first re-install node-red (which will rebuild it for the new node.js) then go to your .node-red directory and run  
`npm rebuild`

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 12:25 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/5 "2019-10-25T12:25:10Z")

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> [@Colin](#):
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> now using an unsupported version of nodejs you might be better to change it to 10.x first.

That is not true. We support node 12 and have done for some time, although node 10 has been the recommended version.

Node 12 became the LTS release this week. We have not seen any runtime issues with Node 12. The only issues we have seen are the odd install time issues with 3rd party modules. But they are few and far between.

If a user reports a problem with a running system and says they are using Node 12, please do not suggest they ought to try using a different version of Node.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 13:08 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/6 "2019-10-25T13:08:56Z")

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> [@knolleary](#):
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> We support node 12 and have done for some time

[The docs](https://nodered.org/docs/faq/node-versions) say that support for 12.x is "tentative", and that 10.x is the recommended version., It seems not seem unreasonable that I recommend that the recommended version is used. The node red docs recommend 10.x so for me to recommend using a version for which support is only tentative would surely not be justifiable.

However I did also say that I thought that the nodejs version was not likely to be the problem.

Point taken though, I will not suggest downgrading from 12 in the future.

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 13:36 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/7 "2019-10-25T13:36:41Z")

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You said 12 was unsupported. That is the statement I was trying to correct.

12 has only just become LTS and we'll be updating the docs to reflect this real soon.

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**Author:** ![hathemi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hathemi/32/3792_2.png) [@hathemi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hathemi)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 13:42 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/8 "2019-10-25T13:42:40Z")

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In my case, i can confirm that node-red is not being launched because of nodejs v12. i have changed to v10.16.0 and it works.  
Maybe because of windows 10, nodejs v12 and node-red v1.0.2 does not work!!!  
i have tried to install the two new version in raspberry and it worked. Also i have noticed some changes like "layout" button in dashboard.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 14:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/9 "2019-10-25T14:22:32Z")

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> [@hathemi](#):
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> In my case, i can confirm that node-red is not being launched because of nodejs v12.

Did you re-install node-red and run npm rebuild before deciding that it did not work with node 12, or did you just go back to 10 (if that is what you were on previously) and found it did then work?

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**Author:** ![hathemi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hathemi/32/3792_2.png) [@hathemi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hathemi)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 14:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/10 "2019-10-25T14:43:23Z")

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Yes, i have tried every thing you suggested to me before i go back to 10.  
i re-install node-red then i run npm rebuild inside .node-red folder and it ends with a lot of errors!

> > deasync@0.1.14 install C:\Users\lenovo.node-red\node\_modules\deasync  
> > node ./build.js
> 
> C:\Users\lenovo.node-red\node\_modules\deasync\>if not defined npm\_config\_node\_gyp (node "C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\npm-lifecycle\node-gyp-bin\....\node\_modules\node-gyp\bin\node-gyp.js" rebuild ) else (node "C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\bin\node-gyp.js" rebuild )  
> gyp ERR! find VS  
> gyp ERR! find VS msvs\_version not set from command line or npm config  
> gyp ERR! find VS VCINSTALLDIR not set, not running in VS Command Prompt  
> gyp ERR! find VS could not use PowerShell to find Visual Studio 2017 or newer  
> gyp ERR! find VS looking for Visual Studio 2015  
> gyp ERR! find VS - not found  
> gyp ERR! find VS not looking for VS2013 as it is only supported up to Node.js 8  
> gyp ERR! find VS  
> gyp ERR! find VS \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*  
> gyp ERR! find VS You need to install the latest version of Visual Studio  
> gyp ERR! find VS including the "Desktop development with C++" workload.  
> gyp ERR! find VS For more information consult the documentation at:  
> gyp ERR! find VS [GitHub - nodejs/node-gyp: Node.js native addon build tool](https://github.com/nodejs/node-gyp#on-windows)  
> gyp ERR! find VS \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*  
> gyp ERR! find VS  
> gyp ERR! configure error  
> gyp ERR! stack Error: Could not find any Visual Studio installation to use  
> gyp ERR! stack at VisualStudioFinder.fail (C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\lib\find-visualstudio.js:121:47)  
> gyp ERR! stack at C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\lib\find-visualstudio.js:74:16  
> gyp ERR! stack at VisualStudioFinder.findVisualStudio2013 (C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\lib\find-visualstudio.js:344:14)  
> gyp ERR! stack at C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\lib\find-visualstudio.js:70:14  
> gyp ERR! stack at C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\lib\find-visualstudio.js:365:16  
> gyp ERR! stack at C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\lib\util.js:54:7  
> gyp ERR! stack at C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\lib\util.js:33:16  
> gyp ERR! stack at ChildProcess.exithandler (child\_process.js:302:5)  
> gyp ERR! stack at ChildProcess.emit (events.js:210:5)  
> gyp ERR! stack at maybeClose (internal/child\_process.js:1021:16)  
> gyp ERR! System Windows\_NT 10.0.17134  
> gyp ERR! command "C:\Program Files\nodejs\node.exe" "C:\Users\lenovo\AppData\Roaming\npm\node\_modules\npm\node\_modules\node-gyp\bin\node-gyp.js" "rebuild"  
> gyp ERR! cwd C:\Users\lenovo.node-red\node\_modules\deasync  
> gyp ERR! node -v v12.13.0  
> gyp ERR! node-gyp -v v5.0.3  
> gyp ERR! not ok  
> Build failed  
> npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE  
> npm ERR! errno 1  
> npm ERR! deasync@0.1.14 install: `node ./build.js`  
> npm ERR! Exit status 1  
> npm ERR!  
> npm ERR! Failed at the deasync@0.1.14 install script.  
> npm ERR! This is probably not a problem with npm. There is likely additional logging output above.

then i decided to go back to node10

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 14:48 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/11 "2019-10-25T14:48:28Z")

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Well I am not a Windows man so some guesswork involved here, but looking at the output it appears that it is not a node-red issue but a Visual Studio issue. So my suggestion that it would be enough to re-install node red and run npm rebuild should have said to first check that you have a version of VS compatible with node 12.

By the way it is better to copy/paste terminal output here rather than post a screenshot if possible. It is much easier to read than trying to zoom in on an image.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 15:15 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/12 "2019-10-25T15:15:08Z")

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Also was there anything at the end of those errors, often rebuilding nodes produces errors along the way but at the end it completes ok by other routes.

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**Author:** ![hathemi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/hathemi/32/3792_2.png) [@hathemi](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/hathemi)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 15:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/13 "2019-10-25T15:43:48Z")

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No there was not anything else at the end.

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 16:02 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/14 "2019-10-25T16:02:27Z")

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In that case I will leave for a Windows user to comment.

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**Post date:** [27 October 2019 08:20 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/15 "2019-10-27T08:20:13Z")

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@knolleary any comment on this? I don't know enough about running on node-red to understand the problem.

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**Post date:** [27 October 2019 08:37 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/16 "2019-10-27T08:37:26Z")

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The log tells you exactly what you need to do:

> [@hathemi](#):
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> ```auto
> **************************************************************
> gyp ERR! find VS You need to install the latest version of Visual Studio
> gyp ERR! find VS including the "Desktop development with C++" workload.
> gyp ERR! find VS For more information consult the documentation at:
> gyp ERR! find VS https://github.com/nodejs/node-gyp#on-windows
> gyp ERR! find VS **************************************************************
> 
> ```

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [27 October 2019 09:06 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/17 "2019-10-27T09:06:55Z")

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That is what I thought, but it doesn't say anything in the  
[node-red windows docs](https://nodered.org/docs/getting-started/windows) about needing Visual Studio, which confused me. I am not trying to run on Windows just seeking the light.

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**Author:** ![knolleary](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/knolleary/32/3_2.png) [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)\
**Post date:** [27 October 2019 09:21 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/18 "2019-10-27T09:21:42Z")

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You don't need visual studio to install Node-RED.

You need VS to build any binary components of 3rd party nodes you may want to install.

Yes the docs could mention that.

But equally, reading the logs of any error you get is probably the place to start rather then assume the documentation covers every eventuality.

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**Author:** ![Steve-Mcl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/steve-mcl/32/4826_2.png) [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)\
**Post date:** [27 October 2019 11:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/19 "2019-10-27T11:33:28Z")

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You'll need build tools...

```bash
npm install --global windows-build-tools

```

> **[windows-build-tools](https://www.npmjs.com/package/windows-build-tools)**
>
> Install C++ Build Tools for Windows using npm

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**Author:** ![Colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/colin/32/17040_2.png) [@Colin](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Colin)\
**Post date:** [27 October 2019 11:39 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/unable-to-start-node-red-after-upgrade-to-1-0-2/17131/20 "2019-10-27T11:39:16Z")

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OK, just to confirm then, the reason it won't build with node 12 but does with node 10 is because the version of Visual Studio installed is not compatible with node 12.  
I know that is what the error says the problem is, but npm is notorious for spewing out loads of messages that are either irrelevant or misleading.

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