# Visual Obfuscation
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923
**Category:** Share Your Nodes
**Created:** [25 January 2024 19:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923 "2024-01-25T19:00:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@gregorius](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gregorius)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 19:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/1 "2024-01-25T19:00:36Z")
Hi There,
Just a little to the left of left-field is this [obfuscation](https://github.com/gorenje/node-red-contrib-introspection#obfuscate) node.
What it does is create an obfuscated version of the current flow. Everything should continue to work, just the flow is harder to understand.
Short demo:
The usefulness is perhaps questionable but if we can textual obfuscate our code, why not also visually?
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### Author:  [@marcus-j-davies](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/marcus-j-davies)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 19:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/2 "2024-01-25T19:19:51Z")
You have way too much time on your hands 😃
> but if we can textual obfuscate our code
It's a visual data processing platform - unless you install this node of course, then it's clearly not! and its purpose is obsolete
if it's a subconscious thought about hackers gaining access, they are not interested in finding out whats happening in your flows.
They will just import, deploy and move on
But I get it - it's fun - I'm no stranger to fiddling with possibilities
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### Author:  [@gregorius](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gregorius)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 19:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/3 "2024-01-25T19:46:58Z")
It's also about how to sell a flow without someone taking the code and doing their own thing with it...
But indeed I do have time to create this stuff because others have time to use NR for things other than data processing 😉
You'd be surprised what people use NR for and no it's not cat memes!
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### Author:  [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 20:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/4 "2024-01-25T20:43:39Z")
> [@gregorius](#):
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> You'd be surprised what people use NR for and no it's not cat memes!
Well, I absolutely wouldn't be surprised at that. The most active Yammer communities in the NHS are the cats and dogs ones!
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### Author:  [@marcus-j-davies](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/marcus-j-davies)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 21:04 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/5 "2024-01-25T21:04:51Z")
> [@TotallyInformation](#):
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> Yammer
🤮 - we dropped that like it was hot!
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### Author:  [@dceejay](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/dceejay)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 21:33 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/6 "2024-01-25T21:33:36Z")
Do I recall correctly that in the recent hacks people have reported that the flow had dodgy flow inserted well down the page and stacked as above in order to hide itself a bit ?
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### Author:  [@gregorius](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gregorius)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 21:40 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/7 "2024-01-25T21:40:23Z")
Learnt something new: yammer being MS corporate social media platform - I did not know!
And I thought it was Jammer... Since there's a german word jammen which means to complain. Perhaps MS meant to aim yammer at the german market. Would fit very well.
Anyway gone off topic again.... 😉
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### Author:  [@gregorius](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/gregorius)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 21:54 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/8 "2024-01-25T21:54:24Z")
I realised that putting all nodes on top each other isn't a problem since there's an auto layout node... But hey, it's the thought that counts - as the germans say.
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### Author:  [@TotallyInformation](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/TotallyInformation)
#### Post date: [25 January 2024 22:00 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/visual-obfuscation/84923/9 "2024-01-25T22:00:38Z")
> [@marcus-j-davies](#):
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> we dropped that like it was hot!
Well certainly no worse than "Facebook Workplace"!! ☹
> [@gregorius](#):
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> Learnt something new: yammer being MS corporate social media platform - I did not know!
Well, you learned just in time because, in true Microsoft fashion, they are in the process of renaming it to "Viva Engage".
> [@gregorius](#):
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> Anyway gone off topic again
Yup!