# Vote for change. Debug "payload" only || or || the whole \`msg\`?

**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/vote-for-change-debug-payload-only-or-the-whole-msg/101216
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**Created:** [7 June 2026 13:46 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/vote-for-change-debug-payload-only-or-the-whole-msg/101216 "2026-06-07T13:46:35Z")
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#### Post date: [8 June 2026 08:30 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/vote-for-change-debug-payload-only-or-the-whole-msg/101216/13 "2026-06-08T08:30:53Z")

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> [@dceejay](#):
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> We won’t officially support v20 but it may still work, as I’m not (yet) aware of any v24

No. Node-RED 5 will refuse to run on anything prior to 22. There are simply too many security issues with old versions of dependencies that we had to move up the baseline.

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