# Weird HIVE MQTT happenings. (possible crying WOLF) But important to read!

**URL:** <https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761>\
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**Created:** [20 January 2025 21:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761 "2025-01-20T21:22:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trying\_to\_learn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/trying_to_learn/32/28400_2.png) [@Trying\_to\_learn](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Trying_to_learn)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2025 21:22 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761/1 "2025-01-20T21:22:12Z")

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Folks, this has started recently I believe and only today I've actually _caught_ the problem.

I use `HIVE MQTT` for a project that now can't be used anyway. ☹  
In saying that, I will raise my hand and say it was an unencrypted one, so I probably _deserve_ what was being attempted.

NOTE: NOTHING DID - AFAIK.  
(And previous ones may not have been related.)

All my machines have a routine that detects flow errors and sends a message (via LOCAL MQTT) and it has been going off a bit recently.

Today, I couldn't reset the alarm/notification.

So I went looking.  
`Failed to parse JSON string`  
is/was the ONLY message being displayed in the `debug` column.

 ![Screenshot from 2025-01-21 08-06-11](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/1/d/1dfc51dcbecab518d222d95e9d4ad8385a103bb7.png)

You can see (above)) not much else.  
Don't worry too much about the nodes seen here and/or the `subflow`.

So when I went to the node this is what I see:

 ![Screenshot from 2025-01-21 08-06-41](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/e/6/e6aec7cce7618fcdccc5b0529f602d2681c2f6d0.png)

What _concerns_ me is the `debug` is supposed to show the entire message. Yet: Nothing.

Ok, opening the `MQTT` node may be a reason why.

 ![Screenshot from 2025-01-21 08-15-27](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/3X/d/f/df4b24fe173f30a277b54e6e27ff0f1c6df75cc0.png)

So it may help me to change that bit.

And in doing so I am seeing:

```auto
{"topic":"blah","payload":"Hello CME466","qos":0,"retain":false,"_msgid":"8db7b59752c5a33b"}

```

This may be me crying **WOLF** but an important lesson I'm sharing.

if you use third party MQTT:  
PLEASE!  
Use a key!  
As if you don't:  
You are susceptible to foreign (unwanted) traffic.

And that could cause errors and all sorts of problems with your flows.

Now, my question:  
I am at/on the `hivemqtt` website, but can't remember how to delete my channels.

_Help - please._

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**Author:** ![Paul-Reed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/paul-reed/32/66906_2.png) [@Paul-Reed](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Paul-Reed)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2025 21:34 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761/2 "2025-01-20T21:34:13Z")

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Have you read the Hive mqtt documentation before asking...  
[https://docs.hivemq.com/hivemq/4.5/control-center/administration.html](https://docs.hivemq.com/hivemq/4.5/control-center/administration.html)

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**Author:** ![Trying\_to\_learn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/trying_to_learn/32/28400_2.png) [@Trying\_to\_learn](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Trying_to_learn)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2025 21:50 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761/3 "2025-01-20T21:50:00Z")

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ITMT, I've found my login details for HIVE and their system.  
Seems I can't get in. ☹  
I'm working on it now. But the annoying thing is that my WRITTEN details are a USER NAME and password. NOT an email address.

Yet, when I enter that user name and password: Not getting in.

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**Author:** ![jbudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@jbudd](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/jbudd)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2025 22:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761/4 "2025-01-20T22:19:53Z")

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I thought you had to use an email address to login to hivemq.

Do you have any old emails with the subject "Welcome to HiveMQ Cloud - please verify your email"?

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**Author:** ![Trying\_to\_learn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/discourse.nodered.org/trying_to_learn/32/28400_2.png) [@Trying\_to\_learn](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Trying_to_learn)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2025 22:23 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761/5 "2025-01-20T22:23:16Z")

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Yeah, well I wrote down a `user name` and `password`. (Also saved in the browser)  
Entering them.... not working.  
Try and put email address (I get stuff from the now and then, so I know that's the one to use) and the password.... not working.

I found their email address and sent them a question about what's going on.  
But they are 8 hours behind me, so a reply today (for me) is not expected.

If I use the `I forgot my password` and enter my email address, I am told a link has been emailed to me, but I do not receive it.

## (oops)

If I try to log in with the option offered `via gmail` and go through that, I am kind of presented with a new account set up.

So that isn't right either.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/nodered/original/1X/d073cd938eafa2e558d7c2cd59003b3ef4963033.png) [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [20 April 2025 22:23 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/weird-hive-mqtt-happenings-possible-crying-wolf-but-important-to-read/94761/6 "2025-04-20T22:23:49Z")

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