# What about Node-Red 4?
**URL:** https://discourse.nodered.org/t/what-about-node-red-4/86274
**Category:** General
**Created:** [8 March 2024 13:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/what-about-node-red-4/86274 "2024-03-08T13:43:58Z")
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### Author:  [@crisconru](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/crisconru)
#### Post date: [8 March 2024 13:43 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/what-about-node-red-4/86274/1 "2024-03-08T13:43:58Z")
Hi mates,
Maybe I am lost but I cannot find any information about this. What about Node-Red next major version? Is it expected? Any news?
I think at least in next minor versions Node version should be upgrade to Node 20 LTS and leave the deprecated Node 16 version.
Cheers
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### Author:  [@Steve-Mcl](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/Steve-Mcl)
#### Post date: [8 March 2024 14:03 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/what-about-node-red-4/86274/2 "2024-03-08T14:03:29Z")
Soon: [When will Node-RED 4.0 be released? - #6 by knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/when-will-node-red-4-0-be-released/85854/6)
If you want to take money to the bookies, "this month" is even odds.
> [@crisconru](#):
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> I think at least in next minor versions Node version should be upgrade to Node 20 LTS
There has been discussion about this. Certainly, v16 will be skipped. Not 100% sure if 18 or 20 will be the new minimum.
Of course, there is nothing stopping you or anyone using Node v18 or 20 with 3.1.6 today 🤷♂️
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### Author:  [@knolleary](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/knolleary)
#### Post date: [8 March 2024 14:07 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/what-about-node-red-4/86274/3 "2024-03-08T14:07:55Z")
> [@crisconru](#):
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> I think at least in next minor versions Node version should be upgrade to Node 20 LTS and leave the deprecated Node 16 version.
I assume you are referring to the docker images. We already build and tag images for node 18 (and have done for a long time).
As has been stated many times, we will not change the latest tag to point at a different node.js version in a minor release - that is a breaking change.
I updated the release plan last week - [Release Plan : Node-RED](https://nodered.org/about/releases/)
Node-RED 4.0 is aiming for end of April for the final release. We'll start the initial beta releases next week.
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### Author:  [@crisconru](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/crisconru)
#### Post date: [8 March 2024 14:18 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/what-about-node-red-4/86274/4 "2024-03-08T14:18:52Z")
Thanks for the replies 😉
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.nodered.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [6 June 2024 14:19 UTC](https://discourse.nodered.org/t/what-about-node-red-4/86274/5 "2024-06-06T14:19:27Z")
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