Node Red seems to slow down over time until it needs restart. How find reason?

Hiho,
as some of you might know I ve a very big Node RED project running in my docker containert.
Now I added even more stuff over the last month and something might be gone wrong here. I usually do use UI elements from Dashboard 2.0 and function code with a lot for code in it. After 1-3 days Node RED gets so slow now that my http requests get their answers are so delayed that this leads to errors and the UI is unresponsible too. How can I find out in my big project where the part of my code is that leads to this freezes ? Are there any helpers besides debug nodes and enable / disable nodes or flows for this case ?

Did you monitor the CPU / memory utilisation ? Are you using template nodes for the dashboard ?

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I use this to monitor the CPU load:

I disabled template nodes already and it did not help

Are you using context variables, if so are they growing in size due to poor implementation?

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Do you have any big messages going to/coming from the dashboard? Unlike messaging between server nodes, server-editor and server-dashboard messaging have a size limit (configured in settings.js). When crossing the limit, the system can hang, causing timeout expirations & disconnects.

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I use flow variables a lot and nearly no context variables.

Big messages I accrue are sometimes when I need to parse a scrapped website as part of a scraping process.

here is my setting file. I don t see anything abnormal but I am no expert at all.

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// The `https` setting requires the `fs` module. Uncomment the following
// to make it available:
//var fs = require("fs");

module.exports = {
    // damit cheerio verwendet werden darf, zum parsen von html:
    functionExternalModules: true,

    // the tcp port that the Node-RED web server is listening on
    uiPort: process.env.PORT || 1880,

    // By default, the Node-RED UI accepts connections on all IPv4 interfaces.
    // To listen on all IPv6 addresses, set uiHost to "::",
    // The following property can be used to listen on a specific interface. For
    // example, the following would only allow connections from the local machine.
    //uiHost: "127.0.0.1",

    // Retry time in milliseconds for MQTT connections
    mqttReconnectTime: 15000,

    // Retry time in milliseconds for Serial port connections
    serialReconnectTime: 15000,

    // Retry time in milliseconds for TCP socket connections
    //socketReconnectTime: 10000,

    // Timeout in milliseconds for TCP server socket connections
    //  defaults to no timeout
    //socketTimeout: 120000,

    // Maximum number of messages to wait in queue while attempting to connect to TCP socket
    //  defaults to 1000
    //tcpMsgQueueSize: 2000,

    // Timeout in milliseconds for HTTP request connections
    //  defaults to 120 seconds
    //httpRequestTimeout: 120000,

    // The maximum length, in characters, of any message sent to the debug sidebar tab
    debugMaxLength: 1000,

    // The maximum number of messages nodes will buffer internally as part of their
    // operation. This applies across a range of nodes that operate on message sequences.
    //  defaults to no limit. A value of 0 also means no limit is applied.
    nodeMessageBufferMaxLength: 0,

    // To disable the option for using local files for storing keys and certificates in the TLS configuration
    //  node, set this to true
    //tlsConfigDisableLocalFiles: true,

    // Colourise the console output of the debug node
    debugUseColors: true,

    // The file containing the flows. If not set, it defaults to flows_<hostname>.json
    //flowFile: 'flows.json',

    // To enabled pretty-printing of the flow within the flow file, set the following
    //  property to true:
    //flowFilePretty: true,

    // By default, credentials are encrypted in storage using a generated key. To
    // specify your own secret, set the following property.
    // If you want to disable encryption of credentials, set this property to false.
    // Note: once you set this property, do not change it - doing so will prevent
    // node-red from being able to decrypt your existing credentials and they will be
    // lost.
    //credentialSecret: "a-secret-key",

    // By default, all user data is stored in a directory called `.node-red` under
    // the user's home directory. To use a different location, the following
    // property can be used
    //userDir: '/home/nol/.node-red/',

    // Node-RED scans the `nodes` directory in the userDir to find local node files.
    // The following property can be used to specify an additional directory to scan.
    //nodesDir: '/home/nol/.node-red/nodes',

    // By default, the Node-RED UI is available at http://localhost:1880/
    // The following property can be used to specify a different root path.
    // If set to false, this is disabled.
    //httpAdminRoot: '/admin',

    // Some nodes, such as HTTP In, can be used to listen for incoming http requests.
    // By default, these are served relative to '/'. The following property
    // can be used to specifiy a different root path. If set to false, this is
    // disabled.
    //httpNodeRoot: '/red-nodes',

    // The following property can be used in place of 'httpAdminRoot' and 'httpNodeRoot',
    // to apply the same root to both parts.
    //httpRoot: '/red',

    // When httpAdminRoot is used to move the UI to a different root path, the
    // following property can be used to identify a directory of static content
    // that should be served at http://localhost:1880/.
    //httpStatic: '/home/nol/node-red-static/',

    // The maximum size of HTTP request that will be accepted by the runtime api.
    // Default: 5mb
    apiMaxLength: '25mb',

    // If you installed the optional node-red-dashboard you can set it's path
    // relative to httpRoot
    //ui: { path: "ui" },

    // Securing Node-RED
    // -----------------
    // To password protect the Node-RED editor and admin API, the following
    // property can be used. See http://nodered.org/docs/security.html for details.
    //adminAuth: {
    //    type: "credentials",
    //    users: [{
    //        username: "admin",
    //        password: "$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
    //        permissions: "*"
    //    }]
    //},

//    adminAuth: {
//        type: "credentials",
//        users: [{
//            username: "admin",
//            password: "$xxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
//            permissions: "*"
//        }]
//    },

    // To password protect the node-defined HTTP endpoints (httpNodeRoot), or
    // the static content (httpStatic), the following properties can be used.
    // The pass field is a bcrypt hash of the password.
    // See http://nodered.org/docs/security.html#generating-the-password-hash
    // httpNodeAuth: {user:"admin",pass:"$xxxxxxxxxxxx"},
    //httpStaticAuth: {user:"user",pass:"$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"},

    // The following property can be used to enable HTTPS
    // See http://nodejs.org/api/https.html#https_https_createserver_options_requestlistener
    // for details on its contents.
    // See the comment at the top of this file on how to load the `fs` module used by
    // this setting.
    //
    //https: {
    //    key: fs.readFileSync('privatekey.pem'),
    //    cert: fs.readFileSync('certificate.pem')
    //},

    // The following property can be used to cause insecure HTTP connections to
    // be redirected to HTTPS.
    //requireHttps: true,

    // The following property can be used to disable the editor. The admin API
    // is not affected by this option. To disable both the editor and the admin
    // API, use either the httpRoot or httpAdminRoot properties
    //disableEditor: false,

    // The following property can be used to configure cross-origin resource sharing
    // in the HTTP nodes.
    // See https://github.com/troygoode/node-cors#configuration-options for
    // details on its contents. The following is a basic permissive set of options:
    //httpNodeCors: {
    //    origin: "*",
    //    methods: "GET,PUT,POST,DELETE"
    //},

    // If you need to set an http proxy please set an environment variable
    // called http_proxy (or HTTP_PROXY) outside of Node-RED in the operating system.
    // For example - http_proxy=http://myproxy.com:8080
    // (Setting it here will have no effect)
    // You may also specify no_proxy (or NO_PROXY) to supply a comma separated
    // list of domains to not proxy, eg - no_proxy=.acme.co,.acme.co.uk

    // The following property can be used to add a custom middleware function
    // in front of all http in nodes. This allows custom authentication to be
    // applied to all http in nodes, or any other sort of common request processing.
    //httpNodeMiddleware: function(req,res,next) {
    //    // Handle/reject the request, or pass it on to the http in node by calling next();
    //    // Optionally skip our rawBodyParser by setting this to true;
    //    //req.skipRawBodyParser = true;
    //    next();
    //},

    // The following property can be used to pass custom options to the Express.js
    // server used by Node-RED. For a full list of available options, refer
    // to http://expressjs.com/en/api.html#app.settings.table
    //httpServerOptions: { },

    // The following property can be used to verify websocket connection attempts.
    // This allows, for example, the HTTP request headers to be checked to ensure
    // they include valid authentication information.
    //webSocketNodeVerifyClient: function(info) {
    //    // 'info' has three properties:
    //    //   - origin : the value in the Origin header
    //    //   - req : the HTTP request
    //    //   - secure : true if req.connection.authorized or req.connection.encrypted is set
    //    //
    //    // The function should return true if the connection should be accepted, false otherwise.
    //    //
    //    // Alternatively, if this function is defined to accept a second argument, callback,
    //    // it can be used to verify the client asynchronously.
    //    // The callback takes three arguments:
    //    //   - result : boolean, whether to accept the connection or not
    //    //   - code : if result is false, the HTTP error status to return
    //    //   - reason: if result is false, the HTTP reason string to return
    //},

    // The following property can be used to seed Global Context with predefined
    // values. This allows extra node modules to be made available with the
    // Function node.
    // For example,
    //    functionGlobalContext: { os:require('os') }
    // can be accessed in a function block as:
    //    global.get("os")
    functionGlobalContext: {
        cheerio: require("cheerio"),
		jsdom: require("jsdom"),
		jquery: require("jquery")
        // os:require('os'),
        // jfive:require("johnny-five"),
        // j5board:require("johnny-five").Board({repl:false})
    },
    // `global.keys()` returns a list of all properties set in global context.
    // This allows them to be displayed in the Context Sidebar within the editor.
    // In some circumstances it is not desirable to expose them to the editor. The
    // following property can be used to hide any property set in `functionGlobalContext`
    // from being list by `global.keys()`.
    // By default, the property is set to false to avoid accidental exposure of
    // their values. Setting this to true will cause the keys to be listed.
    exportGlobalContextKeys: false,


    // Context Storage
    // The following property can be used to enable context storage. The configuration
    // provided here will enable file-based context that flushes to disk every 30 seconds.
    // Refer to the documentation for further options: https://nodered.org/docs/api/context/
    //
    //contextStorage: {
    //    default: {
    //        module:"localfilesystem"
    //    },
    //},

    // The following property can be used to order the categories in the editor
    // palette. If a node's category is not in the list, the category will get
    // added to the end of the palette.
    // If not set, the following default order is used:
    //paletteCategories: ['subflows','flow','input','output','function','parser','social','mobile','storage','analysis','advanced'],

    // Configure the logging output
    logging: {
        // Only console logging is currently supported
        console: {
            // Level of logging to be recorded. Options are:
            // fatal - only those errors which make the application unusable should be recorded
            // error - record errors which are deemed fatal for a particular request + fatal errors
            // warn - record problems which are non fatal + errors + fatal errors
            // info - record information about the general running of the application + warn + error + fatal errors
            // debug - record information which is more verbose than info + info + warn + error + fatal errors
            // trace - record very detailed logging + debug + info + warn + error + fatal errors
            // off - turn off all logging (doesn't affect metrics or audit)
            level: "error",
            // Whether or not to include metric events in the log output
            metrics: false,
            // Whether or not to include audit events in the log output
            audit: false
        }
    },

    // Customising the editor ( Enable Monaco Editor )
    editorTheme: {
        projects: {
            // To enable the Projects feature, set this value to true
            enabled: true
        },
        // Monaco enable:
        codeEditor: {
            lib: "monaco"
        }
        
    },

    // Add a `nrlint` entry pointing to your nrlint config file
    // nrlint: require("./.nrlintrc.js"),
    
    // Stop Flows Enable:
    runtimeState: 
    {
        enabled: true,
        ui: true
    },
    
    // Diagnostic Report:
    diagnostics: 
    {
        enabled: true
    }

}

Try adding this to your settings file (increasing dashboard message size limit), and see if it helps.

	dashboard: {
		maxHttpBufferSize: 1e8 // size in bytes, example: 100 MB
	}
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When I say context I mean flow, global or node(context).
Try monitoing your flow context var size.

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I'm not an expert and merely passing by.

Yes, memory usage can be problematic.

This may take a bit of time to complete.

Not sure it would help, but from the terminal/cli, stop Node-red and start it again but with
node-red, not node-red-start.

The advantage to this way is if Node-red errors/fails, it will stop.

Watch the stuff passing by.

Wait for it to stop and come back to the command prompt.

Look and see if there is anything there useful.

(No promises from me that there will be)

But that is a way to see and catch if there is a problem.

If you have a few graphs: they EAT memory. I know from experience.

Good luck.

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I did and hope that it will be that easy :slight_smile:

oh, okey ... Is there a way for elegant way of monitoring context size? I found out the context is shown when addressing "http://192.168.0.60:1880/context/flow/flowId" I could get the flow ids from "http://192.168.0.60:1880/flows" and iterate...

I know that way luckily in docker its not needed since there is an output always. There are some errors belong to a missing sensor (variable) and a node red module I use but I can not change much on that without big afford. These errors never made trouble like I have now.

How many data points are in those 24h (at a guess 200px wide) line charts AND how often are they updated?

If your answer is "more than there are pixels" or "every second", then thats probably where I would start. It doesnt make a whole lot of sense to send 1000s or 10000s of data points to a chart that simply cannot show them. In dashboard 1 this was almost always the reason for slowdowns (I am not aware of dashboard 2 having these issues, but there will be a breaking point for sure!)

Another reason for slowdown can be "backpressure". This one is harder to explain. Imagine you triggered something every 1 sec, but it takes 1.1 sec to complete. Over the course of 1 week, you would accumulate ~60,480 backed up messages.

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I know about the chart problem (update frequency / datapoints). This is not the problem :slight_smile:

Thanx fĂĽr the explanation with the "backpressure". This is something that could be the problem. It is probably not easy to find in complex cases.

Are you using loops in your flows and/or home assistant ?

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Are the 0, 4, 8 figures in the CPU load 0 to 8% or 0 to 800%?

How many cores has your CPU got?

Do the load average and CPU usage change as the system slows down?

no home assistant and of course loops in any ways.

I use an AMD Ryzen 3 Pro 3200GE with 4 Logic cores that means 400% is max load and above is overloaded.
Most time the system is responsable enough to restart the docker container but the performance impact to the system (win 11) is notable if the load ist too high.
Loadavg says this:

win 11 CPU


It´s running in Docker WSL ported form Raspi 4 2 years ago but it running fine until I started to add stuff or implement DB 2.0 the container uses 16 GB.

So your CPU load figures are not CPU load, but load average, which is not a measure of CPU usage. The CPU usage can be low but the load average high if there is contention for other system resources.

What are you seeing for actual CPU usage as shown in top?

You didn't answer the question about whether they change as the system allows down. That applies to load average and CPU usage. If the CPU usage is high then what process is using it?

What

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Sorry, I had to restart the system again it will take a day or two until the problems accrue again. Then I can take a look and post top / htop screens about the current CPU load.

You need to record what it is initially too.

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This is now when it hangs and honestly I do not see much difference while startup. The Docker process which has now 53% load is in between 25% and 55% most times. Is is possible that opened http requests which can not be answered (server not reachable) stay open to long and causes a kind of "backpressure" ?

Yes, connections left open are exactly the sort of thing that can start to blow up resources. If you do start to get bad or no responses you need to stop or slow down your request rate until the server recovers.